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25 c 50 c heads up..hero -60ish dollars villan 120ish

pretty important hand at heads up...at this time it is around 2:45 in the morning (we started a 10 dollar game at like 9...i am for 35 by this time. I play against this guy heads up a lot. Solid player.

Hero - dealer. dealt 4 3

I raise to 2.25. He calls

Flop

710k

he checks, i bet 4...he calls. not too good so far.

turn

5

he checks again, i make it 7 (in hindsight I should have maybe just taken the free card but we have played many hands where a turn bet will take down this pot)

he raises 15 more. there is 26.50 in the pot at this time i have 47.75 left in chips.

what do you do?
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Re: 25 c 50 c heads up..hero -60ish dollars villan 120ish

Yes, you should've taken the free card. Now, call and suck out with your 12 outer. You should pick up the necessary $$$ when he leads the river.
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Re: 25 c 50 c heads up..hero -60ish dollars villan 120ish

I think you have to make the call on the turn now, but if you miss the river don't bluff at it. Also be careful he could be drawing to a higher flush.
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Re: 25 c 50 c heads up..hero -60ish dollars villan 120ish

I agree with Wolf and Poboy on this one. If you think your flush draw is live (that is you dont believe he is drawing to a higher flush) then you can make the call. I think the implyed odds are there for a call. However, If you think its likely that he is drawing to a higher flush something like 10 9 of spades then fold is the right move. For some reason I get the feeling he is holding K 10os and he thinks you have something like AK or KQ and is trying to get you more involved in the pot (no logical reson for this just a feeling) so be carful of the K or 10 of spades on the river too. Cant wait to see how it turns out. Sal
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Re: 25 c 50 c heads up..hero -60ish dollars villan 120ish

thanks guys, I pretty much had the same thought process as most of you and called the 15.

river came the beautiful ace of spades. he paused for about 3 seconds then pushed all in.

I can't say I wanted him to push in but there is really no way i can toss the hand at this point. i call and flip it over..he says.."seriously?" and mucks his cards. i rake in a nice pot and he is close to steaming. we play for about another hour and I felt him when he pushed all in on a flush draw after the turn and my top two held up.

I got pretty lucky on this hand and then just used my much bigger stack to take little after little.
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i call and flip it over..he says.."seriously?" and mucks his cards. i rake in a nice pot and he is close to steaming.
He shouldn'tve basically min raised the turn, then. I thought the flush draw was pretty live because it was a backdoor one. Unlikely he has two spades based on the way he played.
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He shouldn'tve basically min raised the turn, then. I thought the flush draw was pretty live because it was a backdoor one. Unlikely he has two spades based on the way he played.

yeah that's what i was going to say but I didn't want to make him upset to leave the table...just kept the mouth shut and let him stew over it for a while.

I think a big reason for the min raise is b/c he is a usual (and pretty solid) limit player.

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Would you have taken the free river card? I think I should have but then again, looking at results I don't think all of the money would have went in if i took it for free.

I know you shouldn't look at results most of the time but should i always take the free river?
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Re: 25 c 50 c heads up..hero -60ish dollars villan 120ish

I did say to take the free card, but you don't always. You've got a decent player, he's probably not calling the flop with nothing. Whether to bet the turn or not depends on what the card is, if you think he'll fold what he has for the bet, and if you think you are safe enough that if he does call/raise, you'll have the odds to keep playing.
You got a blank turn, meaning if he liked his cards enough on the flop he probably hasn't changed his mind. You bet less than the pot, giving him reason to call, even if with a pair less than Kings. The third part you were okay with, but if he hadn't min raised, you'dve had to fold.
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I dont think you should always take a free river, but in this spot I would have taken the free card. You raised pre flop and got called, bet on the flop with nothing and got called. On the turn you pick up a draw, since you got called twice you have to figure he has something and at this point you only have 5 high. He is giving you a chance to catch your draw for free so I would take it. If the betting hand gone differently like raise pre flop and get called then check, check on the flop then betting the turn with a semi bluff would be a good play to try and pick up the pot. I wish he had shown you his cards I really wanted to see if my K 10 hunch was right or not. Happy the hand worked out and you nailed him. Sounds like you went on to have a very profitable session, good work. Sal
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Re: 25 c 50 c heads up..hero -60ish dollars villan 120ish

Sal, I'll ask him tonight what he had... thanks everyone.
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