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Old 04-04-2007, 01:43 AM
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Recommend a good book?

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I have recently been playing in a 3-5 NL cash game with $100-300 buy-ins. I have noticed that I do a good job of getting to 3 or 4 times my buy-in relatively quickly then I often stagnate, and even back peddle. My last three trips I have even ended up even or small loser on the night after getting up like that.

I know the easy answer is walk away when I tripple my buy in, but the hard truth is I drive an hr to play, and I have what some would call an addiction. I can't walk away after 90 minutes when I was planning on playing 9-12 hrs. I would rather learn how to better use it to my advantage. (please don't post any 800 #'s)

This doesn't seem to be a problem when I get a good chip lead in tournaments, and I can tend to keep the lead and bully a little more effectively.

Does anyone know of a good book for adjusting play strategies as your stack increases relative to the blinds and other players stacks? Any other advice?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Recommend a good book?

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is the best you have for now. the truth is, and there's no way around it, in a cash game it's harder to play deep than it is to play short. this is true for the best players in the world, and it'll be true for you too.
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Re: Recommend a good book?

This is the best book I have found for 1/2 or 2/5 LLNL.

No-Limit Texas Hold'em: A Complete Course by Angel Largay

http://www.amazon.com/No-Limit-Texas...5690211&sr=8-1

I am reading it a second time.
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How about playing 90 minutes...leave for a quick snack/bathroom break - cash out. Buy back in to another table short. Rinse and repeat.
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Wait 'til early 2008... Daniel's book will be well worth it.
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Re: Recommend a good book?

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All,

I have recently been playing in a 3-5 NL cash game with $100-300 buy-ins. I have noticed that I do a good job of getting to 3 or 4 times my buy-in relatively quickly then I often stagnate, and even back peddle. My last three trips I have even ended up even or small loser on the night after getting up like that.

I know the easy answer is walk away when I tripple my buy in, but the hard truth is I drive an hr to play, and I have what some would call an addiction. I can't walk away after 90 minutes when I was planning on playing 9-12 hrs. I would rather learn how to better use it to my advantage. (please don't post any 800 #'s)

This doesn't seem to be a problem when I get a good chip lead in tournaments, and I can tend to keep the lead and bully a little more effectively.

Does anyone know of a good book for adjusting play strategies as your stack increases relative to the blinds and other players stacks? Any other advice?

Thanks in advance.
your basic playing a short-stacked strategy at these tables, and it sounds like you understand it well. That is good and profitable, so you should take others advice and get up and take a break and change tables so you can keep short-stacking for the time being.

However, this is going to get tedious, and you won't ever become a better player unless you learn to play a deepstack. Your best bet is to pick up NLTAP as jojo suggested, and even more important would be practicing.... A LOT. I would suggest taking $200 and buying a Gift2Go gift card and depositing the money on pokerstars or Full Tilt. Play $25 NL full ring which will actually play remarkably similar to the cash games you are playing for much higher stakes live. Sit with the max buy-in ($25) which is 100bb and never let yourself get shortstacked. Play as much as possible and try to learn how to play with a good sized stack. When you win and increase your stack above the $25 at a table don't get up and leave but keep trying to increase your win and make your stack deeper. Even if you lose much of that $200, it will save you money that you would have lost at the casino, and it is about as cheap a way to learn the game as any other.

Also while playing visit www.twoplustwo.com and read the small-stakes NL forums. The FAQ sticky at the top of the forums has a ton of great articles to start with, and everyday hundreds of posters put up hands for analysis and commentary. You can probably learn as much about playing low-stakes NL on there (for free!!!!) as you can anywhere else.

that's the best advice I can give.

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Thanks for the advice everyone. I like the idea of leaving the table and getting dinner then coming back in to a different game, except that there are often 2 hr waiting lists for the 3-5 NL game when I am there. That is why I generally get to the casino as early as I can on a Friday afternoon (generally about 2 or 3) and I still end up playing Omaha or reading magazines for over an hour waiting for a seat most times.

I love the idea of playing small stakes online, and I agree it does play very similar to the games in the casino, but unfortunately I live in WA where it is a class C felony to play poker online. That's right, you can get the same five years in prison for playing .10-.25 NL as you can for peddling kiddy porn. I know the chances of getting caught, tried, and convicted are miniscule, but I don't want to knowingly commit a felony, and I promised my wife I wouldn't play online anymore. I almost cried as I pulled my meager profits out of PartyPoker and FullTilt when I moved up here.

Thanks for the links and the suggestions. I think I will order a couple books and read up on twoplustwo.

I also just got the next four days off work, and I plan to spend at least two of them "practicing."
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