[Harlequin011]

I believe I can learn from many hands regardless of the results. What would you have done here? I will wait for 5 people to respond then post my next play and the results. I have two points that stand out in my mind as learning experiences , but I'll keep those to myself for now.

Argosy 1/3 NL.

Me -$1600 loose/Aggressive at this point. I was sitting on top of everyone.
sb - $175 Lady just re bought for a $100 and won a good pot. Min experience
cut-off -1 - $500 Nice guy. Likes to play, doesn't play so well. Spews a bit, lots of tells.

I'll name the sb Glitter, because of her shirt. And I'll call the other guy Al, because that's his name.

Me - OTB
Glitter - SB
Al - cut-off -1

Six limpers ahead of me and I see 7 8 o. I join them.

Flop $19 with $2 rake taken.

5c 9s 10s

Checks to Al, who bets $25. No tells on him right now, but I think hes got something.

UTG calls the $25 and I see Glitter pick up $25 while she is waiting for me to decide.

$69 in the pot to us, and we're pretty sure at least Glitter is calling behind us. What do we do now?

[TheMightyJim2k]

fold. You have three clean outs, and the reverse implied odds are huge while you are just barely getting the right pot odds to call if you gave yourself a clean 8 outs (which you don't have).

Only 3 cards can come on the turn that you really want to see 6d,6h, and 6c. If a spade comes you are done, if a J comes you can't feel good about the but end of he straight, and if you catch running trips or two pair you still might get beat by a straight, flush, boat, or higher two pair.

this is not your flop. get out now.

[BrettButter]

Fold.

I'd give reasons, but TMJ2k said it better than I could even think it.

[littlebu]

Time to get out. This is one of those hands that's too easy to make a second best hand. I'm pretty sure your only clean outs are the 3 6's. I wait for a better spot.

[Deuce]

Agree, fold

[trutan]

I fold as well.

There...that makes 5 responses.....next installment please

[coyote]

Fold. Although I wouldn't be as worried about the J hitting the turn, I think KQ is a less likely hand.

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by coyote

Fold. Although I wouldn't be as worried about the J hitting the turn, I think KQ is a less likely hand.

KQ of spades is a decent possibility though...

[TheMightyJim2k]

the thought is not, does someone have KQ, but more importantly how good to feel about 78 on a 9,T,J two spade board? Even if you are still good you are going to have to hope that no spade, Q, K hits on the end, or the board pairs, or a 7 comes and counterfeits your hande. Plus someone could easily have Q8 on this flop.

When you are ahead and you shove the turn to try and price out the draws you are only slightly ahead if up against a set and a flush draw, and they both are getting odds to call. If you are up against the higher straight you are drawing dead.

So while the J is a decent turn card for our hand, the Js is dead to us, and the other three are probably only worth 1 whole out combined, and even then its very marginal. In this case we have very large reverse implied odds and cant really count the three non-spade Jacks as outs.

You can really only play this hand to hit a 6, and there aren't enough massive stacks on this table to make this gamble worthwhile.

I fold this and feel good about it (and then the 6h comes on the turn and I mutter some stuff under my breath).

[WolfPack]

I fold this one, to many callers and not enough strong outs like mj2k said you really only want to see a 6 and no spade.