[jojobinks]

villain has played 80%+ of his hands in this stt. what does he have here, and how do you handle this sort of situation?

Saw Flop | Saw Turn | Saw River | Saw Showdown | Won

PokerStars Game #7833649578: Tournament #39907073, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level II (15/30) - 2007/01/08 - 16:29:29 (ET)
Table '39907073 1' 10-max Seat #5 is the button

Dr. Pawlow - t745
saliex - t880
Riverrmann - t245
Gohan_SpS - t2105
jojobinks Button - t1125
FORTUNATOR - t2865
Histon Jack - t1205
Smeg Head - t1015
imasnake - t3520

PREFLOP undefined
jojobinks is Button with T T
1 fold, imasnake calls t30, 1 fold, Dr. Pawlow raises t120 to t150, 3 folds, jojobinks calls t150, 2 folds, imasnake calls t120.

FLOP t495 (2 players)
A 8 3
imasnake bets t60, 1 fold, jojobinks calls t60.

TURN t615 (1 players)
A 8 3 3
imasnake bets t60, jojobinks calls t60.

RIVER t735 (1 players)
A 8 3 3 9
imasnake bets t60, jojobinks calls t60.

Final Pot: t855

[noelsarchs]

He has 7-3 os

[scoober]

I would re-raise flop another 120 or so to see where I stand. If he calls, then I fold to a turn bet. He may have a weak ace or a mid-pocket. Also by re-raising the flop, it might get him to check it down to the river.

You said he has played about 80% of his hands. Did he minimum bet other times when he's had top pair? Did he minimum bet when he was strong, i.e. 2 pair? What sort of read did you get on him?

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by scoober

I would re-raise flop another 120 or so to see where I stand. If he calls, then I fold to a turn bet. He may have a weak ace or a mid-pocket. Also by re-raising the flop, it might get him to check it down to the river.

You said he has played about 80% of his hands. Did he minimum bet other times when he's had top pair? Did he minimum bet when he was strong, i.e. 2 pair? What sort of read did you get on him?

not much of a read. he almost always is making small bets...haven't seen many showdowns (reading the news and email )

[TheMightyJim2k]

i play it exactly the same.

you have no idea where he is. The last thing you want to do is create a big pot with a hand when you don't really know if you are best. Get to a showdown cheap where you are ahead most of the time. If he is bluffing you probably don't win much by raising, and if he has an A he isn't laying it down.

I think this is by far the best strategy with a hand like TT. If he wants to let us get to a cheap showdown with a pair of tens then I take it and hope he flips over KJ, Q9 or some trash like that.

[scoober]

Actually, if he did have you beat, he sure didn't maximze value from you. With TT and an ace on the board, it's not so bad to get to the river with 3 small bets.

p.s. you're like me, I like to surf the net and read the chipnet forum during games

[w16227]

ok - 80% of the hands, and I assume that he has played in a similar fashon - only the microbets? - has he folded to resistance? any variation in the betting and do you think that the sizes mean anything? any preflop raises?

first things first - Pawlow is a weenie. Raising from EP-MP with one limper - then folding to that bet? Cmon man, u need a real hand there. No way do you try the steal against someone who is calling that much.


Ok - your play, - I would pretty much do the same thing there. Without really having any more information on his playing style, my preference is to keep the pot small with that hand. He keeps throwing the sweetener bets out there, well - sure I call (lacking any other betteing pattern information).

Raising might only do a couple of things, and most are bad. If this guy is really a donk, -

1. You get called and win. Maybe if this is truly a donkey - but I see most if not all hands that you beat folding here with the exception of maybe 7-8.

2. You get called and lose. I see this happening the majority of the time.

3. You get raised = now you are comitted and he has woken up and put you al in.

4. He folds better hand - 0% of the time (you said donkey). you push the river - and decent players might lay down JJ ,QQ or maybe a real weak A - but I do not see a donk doing so.

5: He folds hand u beat anyway.

I just see many really bad things that could happen with a raise there. If you call and lose, you are not in terrible shape - but any raise from you could really knock a big chunk of of your stack. You had like 320 invested in that pot - taking the risk to make another 400+ against someone whom you think is a total donk is not worth it IMO.

I know that you put these hands out here for a reason - my guess is that you raised into quad threes shortly before throwing the mouse into a wall.

[jojobinks]

dude, i put bad beat threads in bad beats...where they belong.

this is just a strategy question.

[w16227]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

dude, i put bad beat threads in bad beats...where they belong.

this is just a strategy question.

but you did not start with kings full - so it would not be a bad beat............................

[bigjohn]

Great play. I would say when that A comes out you were dead. Maybe he's betting the min on a small pocket but I doubt it. Looks more like a weak A to me and I would see a showdown considering how cheep he made it.