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Old 12-13-2006, 09:58 PM
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Nutz plus action from two opponents

2nd hand of a micro turbo sng. no one ever sees this situation, so i was pretty much lost on how to play it.

if you saw the whole hh, ignore the results. what's your play and why?

PokerStars Game #7432000766: Tournament #38016389, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/12/13 - 21:35:02 (ET)
Table '38016389 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: BobPaulson11 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: fu17 (3060 in chips)
Seat 3: mwfeldman (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: Mr. Nickels (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: 2late2late (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: jwolfe3 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Mattys 10's (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: SantaPaws (1480 in chips)
mwfeldman: posts small blind 10
Mr. Nickels: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mwfeldman [Ts Td]
2late2late: calls 20
jwolfe3: folds
Mattys 10's: folds
SantaPaws: calls 20
BobPaulson11: folds
fu17: calls 20
mwfeldman: calls 10
Mr. Nickels: checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Tc Th]
mwfeldman: checks
Mr. Nickels: checks
2late2late: checks
SantaPaws: checks
fu17: checks
*** TURN *** [4h Tc Th] [Kc]
mwfeldman: checks
Mr. Nickels: checks
2late2late: checks
SantaPaws: checks
fu17: checks
*** RIVER *** [4h Tc Th Kc] [Jh]
mwfeldman: bets 50
Mr. Nickels: folds
2late2late: calls 50
SantaPaws: raises 50 to 100
fu17: raises 240 to 340
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:36 AM
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Re: Nutz plus action from two opponents

Reraise, simple as that
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:22 AM
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Re: Nutz plus action from two opponents

is it that simple? we can choose any amount, ranging from 480-1480.
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Re: Nutz plus action from two opponents

reraise all in.

You have at least one person with a legit hand. If they don't call though, they'll put a target on your back.

Show to let them know you had it if you want your bluffs to hold up.

Muck if you want to keep them guessing and give you action.
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Re: Nutz plus action from two opponents

Well, blatantly ignoring what I know happens...

I'm hoping to string along fu17, b/c I dubious that the flat-caller and the min-raiser will put more money in. I'm assuming they are folding - if one of them is sitting on what they think is a big hand (nut flush?) they will likely push anyways, so I don't much care about them.

I try to raise enough that fu17 will likely re-raise me all-in, although if he doesn't I've still got some value in my bet. I've found at these low-level sit-n-gos people will sometimes fold to an all-in bet, but push the rest of their stack in even if it's reasonably obvious they will get called - I think that the slightly smaller bet is perceived as weak? I don't know the logic they have precisely, but I often see it. So I raise about 2/3 of what I have left, which is around 700, and hope that fu17 pushes and I get the rest in.

I probably do something different against better opponents. Just push right away, because I think my opponents are going to either call a push or fold after a third re-raise?
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Re: Nutz plus action from two opponents

In this situation I think you push all in. You do it quickly so ful17 doesn't have time to think about what he's going to do. It's a micro turbo sng, so that means there are a few people who will only see their hand and will push without any thought on what type of hand you may have. I can't see anyone putting you on quads as you slow played the 10's before the flop and you were one of the blinds. What I can see an average player putting you on is K/10. That may not happen because you were a blind. ful17 may put you on trip 10's and push his nut flush and now you have his chips. I don't think Santapaws will stay around once it is raised again from you unless he has the nut flush and ful17 had a lower flush.

Now we wait to see what happens. What did you do?
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Re: Nutz plus action from two opponents

Without looking past the flop at all, this works great esp. when you are heads up:
1. I bet min on the flop and induce a call(s) or at least a bluff at the pot.
2. I check the turn to demonstrate that the min bet on the flop was an info bet and show weakness.
3. If it is checked down, great. You gave them many chances to bluff at the pot. I go all in on the river to make it look like a steal and pray for a call.

Now for your hand - well, it is all checked down. I think I go all in. fu17 is probably your only caller.
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Re: Nutz plus action from two opponents

I would lead the flop for around 1/3 psb or so maybe 1/4. Then a check on the turn hoping they'll fire, then smooth call if they bet then fire a small fake blocking bet on the river hoping someone comes over the top. If you can get them to put more $$ in early in the hand it's easier to get the rest of your $$ in by the river.
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jojo when are you going to tell us how you played this hand? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Re: Nutz plus action from two opponents

I would R/R all in as well... Someone probally has the king and will call especially in this type of tourney...
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