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11-27-2006, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jdunford I haven't seen this WSOP and am no expert by any means. If I've got > 120,000 in chips, I bet 30,000 to see if Tran is strong enough (flush) to push all-in here. If I bet 61,000, I think my EV goes down with his probability of calling...
If it's closer (say I have ~ 61,000 in chips), then I bet 20,000 here. I want him thinking I have the flush and am making a value bet... in case he's on a set or better 2-pair.
*EDIT* Seeing actual chip counts in the next post, then I go with Plan A - bet 30,000. If he has the flush, he should push all-in. Otherwise, I expect him to call with a set or maybe top two-pair, or fold with anything less. Then again, he could push all-in to represent the flush with something less, but is he really going to put it all on the line bluffing? | no no...the pot is 80k ish, and tran only has 60k. you wanna bet 30k, and then fold to a push? in that case the pot would be 140, and you'd be folding with 2 pair and 5:1 pot odds. no sir. you push here. | | Sponsored Links |  This custom ChipTalk link is built to show you only the real deal: Casino quality poker chips; Not the plastic chips that some sellers call "clay." http://www.eBay.com/casino-chips | |
11-28-2006, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jojobinks no no...the pot is 80k ish, and tran only has 60k. you wanna bet 30k, and then fold to a push? in that case the pot would be 140, and you'd be folding with 2 pair and 5:1 pot odds. no sir. you push here. | Agreed, maybe. Pushing and losing doesn't cripple you. It's the final table and you have a hand. But I am a bit "concerned" about my odds (but I do not let the odds run my play). If he has the flush, I am an 11-1 dog to hit my FH (without knowing what was folded). If he doesn't have it, he is 4-1 to hit the flush (again, without knowing what was folded). Do I bet and call a push on the turn?? If I am going to call a push anyway, why not push first? |
11-28-2006, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Savior17 If I am going to call a push anyway, why not push first? | i think this is the key. |
11-29-2006, 10:44 AM
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11-30-2006, 06:44 PM
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12-01-2006, 08:09 PM
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Saw Flop | Saw Turn | Saw River | Saw Showdown | Won
PokerStars Game #7257928977: Tournament #37111241, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/01 - 19:35:14 (ET)
Table '37111241 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
UTG - t215 UTG+1 - t900
Button - t2410 HERO - t5300 BB - t4675 PREFLOP Level V (75/150)
HERO is SB with A  A 
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t150, 1 fold, HERO raises t200 to t350, BB raises t550 to t900, UTG+1 calls t750, HERO raises t4400 to t5300, BB calls t3775. FLOP t10875 (3 players)
2 Q  3 TURN t10875 (3 players)
2 Q 3 8  RIVER t10875 (3 players)
2 Q 3 8 6 SHOW DOWN
HERO shows A A
BB shows J J
HERO collected t7550 from pot
UTG+1 shows 7 7
HERO collected t2700 from pot
Final Pot: t10250 | Main Pot t2700. | Side Pot t2700. | Rake t2700.
Wow...nothing worth really discussing here, this hand plays itself.
How about we make this the "Chiptalk Massive Double Bustout and Double Up Hand Of The Day" ???
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12-02-2006, 02:05 PM
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but i thought this was the poker strategy forum? Quote: |
Originally Posted by jetra2 Saw Flop | Saw Turn | Saw River | Saw Showdown | Won
PokerStars Game #7257928977: Tournament #37111241, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/01 - 19:35:14 (ET)
Table '37111241 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
UTG - t215 UTG+1 - t900
Button - t2410 HERO - t5300 BB - t4675 PREFLOP Level V (75/150)
HERO is SB with A A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t150, 1 fold, HERO raises t200 to t350, BB raises t550 to t900, UTG+1 calls t750, HERO raises t4400 to t5300, BB calls t3775. FLOP t10875 (3 players)
2 Q 3 TURN t10875 (3 players)
2 Q 3 8 RIVER t10875 (3 players)
2 Q 3 8 6 SHOW DOWN
HERO shows A A
BB shows J J
HERO collected t7550 from pot
UTG+1 shows 7 7
HERO collected t2700 from pot
Final Pot: t10250 | Main Pot t2700. | Side Pot t2700. | Rake t2700.
Wow...nothing worth really discussing here, this hand plays itself.
How about we make this the "Chiptalk Massive Double Bustout and Double Up Hand Of The Day" ???
Jason | |
12-02-2006, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jetra2 How about we make this the "Chiptalk Massive Double Bustout and Double Up Hand Of The Day" ??? | That's the only reason I posted it. LOL.
How about some strategy discussion on how to play the HAMMER??
Jason |
12-05-2006, 09:27 PM
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Ok, I know it's a $1.20 tourney, and you can't really expect good play, but the way I played this preflop is kinda bothering me. It's probably not the best play with AQo, but I'd like a bit of input. Thanks! Saw Flop | Saw Turn | Saw River | Saw Showdown | Won
PokerStars Game #7317545357: Tournament #37421063, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/12/05 - 21:19:38 (ET)
Table '37421063 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
MP1 - t1455
MP2 - t4075
HERO - t3610
MP4 - t2170
Button - t1305
SB - t5670
BB - t715
UTG - t2970
UTG+1 - t1135 PREFLOP Level IV (50/100)
HERO is MP3 with Q A
UTG calls t100, 3 folds, HERO raises t300 to t400, 3 folds, BB raises t315 to t715, UTG calls t615, HERO raises t2895 to t3610, UTG calls t2255. FLOP t7345 (3 players)
Q 5 9 TURN t7345 (3 players)
Q 5 9 6 RIVER t7345 (3 players)
Q 5 9 6 2
Final Pot: t6705 | Main Pot t2195. | Side Pot t2195. | Rake t2195. |
12-06-2006, 10:47 AM
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Well, without any knowledge of how these players have been playing, I'd be afraid UTG has AA or KK. After UTG calls in a raise-reraise situation, I'd be apt to fold AQo, but you've got odds to call (after UTG calls T615).
After the flop, you probably would've pushed all-in anyway, given the top-pair-top-kicker with nut flush draw... at which point you might've got UTG to fold. Then you just have to hope your TPTK holds up against whatever BB pushed with. |
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, he moved allin. Tran called instantly, turning over 
. No king or deuce came on the river, and Tran doubled up with a nice pot. Lee would be eliminated in eight place a bit later when Kido Pham flopped a straight and Lee had top pair with, ironically, a K-2.
