[punk1o1]

Ive always wondered if say your playing 1/2 Nl at a casino and you quickly work 100$ up to 500$. Can you get a table change and start again there with just 100$? I didnt think it would be allowed but you can online, so just thought Id make sure.

Is this allowed or isnt it?

[smoore]

Typically, no. It's called rat-holing.

I'm a proponent of rat-holing when it's me that's the rat. You have to sit out a certain amount of time so I either get up and go to another casino or go have dinner. Rack up, cash out and go eat. When you come back no floor in his/her right mind will require you to pull the $500 back out, even if you're a half-hour short of the required time.

[punk1o1]

Thanks alot smoore. But what is the usual required time at a avg casino?

[SpaceMonkey]

Table changes are allowed at Foxwoods. If you request a table change, you can only bring to the new table the max buy-in. If your table breaks and you're moved to a different table, you can "buy-in" for as little as the minimum to as much as you had on the table that broke.

Of course if you stay at the same table, you can never take any chips or cash off the table. I've seen some people do that, and usually say something to the dealer.

I do see quite a few weak 1-2 players run up a decent stack and then switch to a new table. Typcially it's people that don't know how to play that well and can't play/proctect their big stack that I see doing this.

[smoore]

Oh yeah, duh! NLHE. Obv. if you are sitting in a capped game then you HAVE to rat-hole. I'm a limi-donk.

2hrs is the standard here in CO, dunno if it's law or just tradition.

[BlondWidow]

Wait, so you guys are saying you can leave a table with chips? I thought you were supposed to stay until all of the other players have what you brought.

[BigKyle]

This came up in one of my home cash games a few weeks ago, also 1/2 NL. Being the floor man that I am, I ultimately ruled that since the player returned and wanted to play before he had been away from the table for sixty minutes (he had been gone about a half-hour) he had to buyin for what he cashed out with. Fortunately there was no objection from anyone, but I was only about 60% certain that this was the correct rule. He ended up dipping from about $300 down to about $150 after losing allins to shorter stacks, but then built his chips back up to about $230, so he had a pretty good night I guess. I still wonder if that one-hour rule was correct?

[Quads]

I've never seen a card room or casino that will allow you to rat-hole or go south with chips when moving from one table to anther (like) table.

Moving from the $1/2NL game to the $2/5 game, you can do what you like, but from a $1/2 game to another $1/2 game, you need to keep all your chips in play. Even in a case where there is a cap on the buy in for the game. I've never seen someone move from one table (be it a side table or a feeder table) to the main game and have to cash out some of their chips. All of your chips stay in play.

If you choose not to, you can cash out, get back on the list or wait the (typical) 60 minutes before coming back in the game (whichever is longer).

YMMV-

(apparently this isn't the case at Foxwoods! I base this on Las Vegas and California card rooms)

[smoore]

I accept this as authority. Quads is straight balla.

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by Quads

,,, but from a $1/2 game to another $1/2 game, you need to keep all your chips in play. Even in a case where there is a cap on the buy in for the game...

(apparently this isn't the case at Foxwoods! I base this on Las Vegas and California card rooms)

Yeah, it's pretty annoying. I've talked to a few floors about it, but no dice. Besides table changes, I find it even worse when a 1-2 table breaks, that they give you the option of taking all your chips or just the max buy in to the table you're moved to!

And they're typically spreading 15-25 1/2 games at any time, so table moves do happen a decent amount of the time. Unfortunately.

Never seen anyone do it at the 2/5 tables though.