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10-16-2006, 02:44 PM
|  | On the Bubble | | Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by tastic on that board the nut flush would have been a K  in the hole...
in your hand your opponent had 4th nut (10  ) and you had 5th nut (9  ).. | | 
10-16-2006, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Senator_Thack Actually, on that board, 5  3  is the nut flush.  | Well, that's "THEE NUTS". aka a straight flush... Does the "nut flush" refer to the highest flush or the highest hand that is also a flush? ... doesn't really matter... just a question of terminology. Quote: |
Originally Posted by 99%evil Also don't forget that if the board flushes, the one that has a higher suited card than the lowest card on the board wins the pot, with the highest suited card winning. I've seen folks think they've split a flush board and try and argue the point. I've also seen a guy split a pot that had a suited card to the board, but it was the 2... Very basic poker rules, just make sure you know all the rules before you start playing with strangers. | Is that true? I've always been told that the highest 5-card hand wins. If both players are playing the board, they have the same hand and split the pot.
If you're right and I'm wrong, then what about the following:
Say the community is      . Obviously everyone at showdown is playing the board (it's the nuts, afterall). For simplicity, let's say no one holds  . Does that mean that someone with hole card  beats someone with  (or no spade)?
And what if the community wasn't a straight flush (e.g. replace the Q with a 7 or something)? | 
10-16-2006, 02:56 PM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by Senator_Thack Actually, on that board, 5  3  is the nut flush.  | | 
10-16-2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jdunford Is that true? I've always been told that the highest 5-card hand wins. If both players are playing the board, they have the same hand and split the pot.
| That's what he said but it was a bit difficult to follow. Basically if the board flushes, you need to have a card of the same suit that is higher than any of the cards on the board to win.
Of course nothing like having someone dominated with AA vs AKo and then having the board flush in his suit. | 
10-16-2006, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hachkc That's what he said but it was a bit difficult to follow. Basically if the board flushes, you need to have a card of the same suit that is higher than any of the cards on the board to win. | My mistake. I misread the post by 99%evil. Quote: |
Originally Posted by hachkc Of course nothing like having someone dominated with AA vs AKo and then having the board flush in his suit. | Something similar (but not quite that bad) put me out of an 18-player live tournament this weekend... I was finally eliminated going all-in pre-flop with QQ and called by K9o. The flop had two clubs, turn was a club, river was a club... Neither of my Q's was a club, but his 9 was... | 
10-16-2006, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jdunford Something similar (but not quite that bad) put me out of an 18-player live tournament this weekend... I was finally eliminated going all-in pre-flop with QQ and called by K9o. The flop had two clubs, turn was a club, river was a club... Neither of my Q's was a club, but his 9 was... | The nice thing about my scenario, I was the AKo and only a 14:1 or so dog  | 
10-16-2006, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DocNeptun Hi,
while playing limited hold'em on pokerstars.net i lost a really big bet.. i still can't believe it happened... I decided to play [A  9  ] from middle position, i raised, which drove out all players except one in the BB (which i estimated as "loose-agressive")... I flopped top-pair with [4  A  Q  ] and there was "heavy betting". The Turn brought [2  ], so i still held top pair and had a flush draw. The nutflush came through the backdoor on the River [6  ], so i went on betting, confident that i held the best possible hand... But in the end, I lost the pot against [K  10  ] because BB had the higher hole-card! 
..is this a general poker rule or a pokerstars.net speciality? I have never heard of that darn rule before...
PS: i would love to hear your comments on my strategy
regards, Mario | Considering what I've just read in both your posts, my question is this in addition to the basic flushes you described:
Do you know what a straight flush is and if you both have flushes like the one below, which one wins? Answer to that question is somewhere above in another post, but considering that you thought you had the nut flush, if you were up against the straight flush, would you win or lose?
ie: which of these two hands would win the pot...
Your hand
[A  9  ]+ [4  A  Q  ][2  ][6  ]
His hand
[ 3  5  ] + [4  A  Q  ][2  ][6  ] | 
10-16-2006, 03:26 PM
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Sorry for the confusing wording in my post.
Basically, if someone holds a higher suited card than the lowest suited card on a flush board that person wins. (This is all provided that there are no paired cards to make a FH or cards to make a straight flush)
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10-16-2006, 03:34 PM
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Chips: 14,841 | | | Re: Lost against a "higher Nut-flush"! How is this possible?! Simple rule of thumb: The best 5 card hand wins the pot.
Use any of your 2 hole cards plus the 5 community cards to make the best 5 card hand, if its higher than your opponent's, you win. You play with all 7, not just the 5 on the board.
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10-16-2006, 04:03 PM
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LOL, just trying to make it more confusing. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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