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08-17-2006, 10:54 PM
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I just got knocked out of the chiptalk tourney in 10th place with pocket QQ.
This is now around the 10th consecutive time in online poker I've been knocked out with that fricking hand. Every time by someone calling with and Ace rag hitting the river Ace.
jojo WTF how do I play this fricking hand anyway? |
08-17-2006, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by noelsarchs I just got knocked out of the chiptalk tourney in 10th place with pocket QQ.
This is now around the 10th consecutive time in online poker I've been knocked out with that fricking hand. Every time by someone calling with and Ace rag hitting the river Ace.
jojo WTF how do I play this fricking hand anyway? | If that's the 10th time you've been knocked out with it, here's my opinion on how to play it...
Don't.  |
08-17-2006, 11:25 PM
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I lost most of my chips with QQ at the final table tonight. Lost to a set of 3's. |
08-18-2006, 12:00 AM
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With your recent luck, fold?
j/k but you played it fine tonight. You got it all in as a 70/30 favorite. Sometimes you run bad. Then sometimes you run worse. It sucks. Perseverance is key. |
08-18-2006, 12:19 AM
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I also was damaged heavily at the final tabele with the ladies..the question is did I PLAY IT RIGHT?
PokerStars Game #5958074595: Tournament #29766842, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2006/08/18 - 00:05:34 (ET)
Table '29766842 5' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: RaiderJoe40 (16255 in chips)
Seat 4: lilwaltie (20089 in chips)
Seat 5: cnw400 (16773 in chips)
Seat 6: SpaceMonkey3 (11591 in chips)
Seat 8: Iscas (22292 in chips)
RaiderJoe40: posts the ante 50
lilwaltie: posts the ante 50
cnw400: posts the ante 50
SpaceMonkey3: posts the ante 50
Iscas: posts the ante 50
Iscas: posts small blind 400
RaiderJoe40: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RaiderJoe40 [Qc Qs]
lilwaltie: calls 800
cnw400: folds
SpaceMonkey3: folds
Iscas: calls 400
RaiderJoe40: raises 2400 to 3200
lilwaltie: calls 2400
Iscas: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad 3c 6d]
RaiderJoe40: bets 3200
lilwaltie: calls 3200
*** TURN *** [Ad 3c 6d] [3h]
Iscas said, "btw.. My nick on CT, Nexttime"
RaiderJoe40: checks
lilwaltie: bets 3200
RaiderJoe40: folds
lilwaltie collected 13850 from pot
lilwaltie: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13850 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 3c 6d 3h]
Seat 2: RaiderJoe40 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: lilwaltie collected (13850)
Seat 5: cnw400 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: SpaceMonkey3 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Iscas (small blind) folded before Flop
was I weak? or was I had?
personaly I think folding helped me gain two more spots  |
08-18-2006, 07:39 AM
|  | Poker Nerd (and Admin) | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bottom pair and a flush draw Age: 35
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| | | Re: Q Q
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Originally Posted by noelsarchs I just got knocked out of the chiptalk tourney in 10th place with pocket QQ.
This is now around the 10th consecutive time in online poker I've been knocked out with that fricking hand. Every time by someone calling with and Ace rag hitting the river Ace.
jojo WTF how do I play this fricking hand anyway? | who me?  recongnize you got sucked out on, and don't let it change how you play that very strong hand. the more you play, the more you amass hands, the more things'll even out with it.
play them very strongly after the flop, unless an A or K flops, then bet sometimes and prepare to fold lots of times.
sounds like you got all in preflop, right? that's all you can do, homie.
stove isn't working right (can't copy from it right now), but QQ v A2-AT is 71%. |
08-18-2006, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jojobinks who me? recongnize you got sucked out on, and don't let it change how you play that very strong hand. the more you play, the more you amass hands, the more things'll even out with it.
play them very strongly after the flop, unless an A or K flops, then bet sometimes and prepare to fold lots of times.
sounds like you got all in preflop, right? that's all you can do, homie.
stove isn't working right (can't copy from it right now), but QQ v A2-AT is 71%. | Yep, pre flop on the money bubble during hand for hand play with about 2,500 in chips. Would have been in the money if I had just laid it down or not bet at all until after the flop. 
But the odd thing is, and I've written about this for the past month in various threads, but my QQ has been busted in every single tourny I've played. Remember my post awhile back where it was busted when it was dealt to me in 3 of 4 consecutive hands on 3 SGN tables.
But as for strategy, even with those odds I think the ladies are my cursed hand because I'm batting .000 with them. |
08-18-2006, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by noelsarchs But as for strategy, even with those odds I think the ladies are my cursed hand because I'm batting .000 with them. | even thinking things like this are guaranteed to hurt your play. superstition = death in this game. QQ is worth approx 20% of my profits in ring games and 11% of my chips won in tournies. in both games, it wins 80% of the time. if i had gotten unlucky for a week with it and then vowed to stop playing it aggressively, i'd be in big trouble.
it's not unlucky for you, b/c there's no such thing. keep playing it strong. |
08-18-2006, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RaiderJoe40 Dealt to RaiderJoe40 [Qc Qs]
*** FLOP *** [Ad 3c 6d]
RaiderJoe40: bets 3200
lilwaltie: calls 3200
*** TURN *** [Ad 3c 6d] [3h]
lilwaltie: bets 3200
RaiderJoe40: folds
was I weak? or was I had? | I'd say good fold. Its folds like this that allow you to find better spots for your chips later -- like when you have the ace vs. QQ. |
08-18-2006, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jojobinks superstition = death in this game. | Superstition leads to fear, fear leads to the darkside... Quote: |
Originally Posted by jojobinks in both games, it wins 80% of the time. | "There have been studies, you know. 80% of the time, it works EVERY TIME..."
In all seriousness, i cant tell you how many times ive had my money in good in the last few months, only to have it not hold up. Its psycologically brutal, and has affected my game. Now Im to the point where I just push bitterly, and expect to lose...'course it could just be the never-folding donks I play with that have me down...."JUST F'N FOLD DAMMIT!!...(just once even?!)" >insert praying smilie here<
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