[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by boondocker96

Dude, its like you were there!!

I did have to leave the room for a sec, but there was no river K love.

Yeah, I deleted my post realizing you already said there was no K.

[bradbucholtz]

I agree with alot of the advice that was given. With QQ the way I see it there are 2 ways to play it.
1. You need to bet big before the folp and pray and you can steal the pot or that anyone who stays in dosent catch anything.
2. If it seems like there are alot of players each hand try to get in on a cheap folp and hope your trip shows up. If a K or A show up on the flop you may not want to preceed to 4th street.

It kind of sucks because when your sitting with that hand in the hole you can gain a false sence of security and think that you actaully have something.

Just my advice if its worth anything.

[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by bradbucholtz

I agree with alot of the advice that was given. With QQ the way I see it there are 2 ways to play it.
1. You need to bet big before the folp and pray and you can steal the pot or that anyone who stays in dosent catch anything.
2. If it seems like there are alot of players each hand try to get in on a cheap folp and hope your trip shows up. If a K or A show up on the flop you may not want to preceed to 4th street.

It kind of sucks because when your sitting with that hand in the hole you can gain a false sence of security and think that you actaully have something.

Just my advice if its worth anything.

All depends on the situation. If you're in a bubble situation where a double up would get you into the money, then you're probably going to keep playing even with an overcard on the flop. If you're in my situation, where the blinds are still low, then only an idiot would play it that hard. OOPS!

[boondocker96]

Originally Posted by yeltzen

Yeah, I deleted my post realizing you already said there was no K.

Looks like I quoted it for posterity, Boris.


Guess i could delete it...but that would be work...and work usually requires pants...

[noelsarchs]

Originally Posted by yeltzen

All depends on the situation. If you're in a bubble situation where a double up would get you into the money,

Yep, sitting in 9th out of 10 on the money bubble, hand for hand play now. And I see pocket queens in the big blind and I'm heaven. And I'm thinking oh please everyone fold because I'm going all in...ooops.

[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by noelsarchs

Yep, sitting in 9th out of 10 on the money bubble, hand for hand play now. And I see pocket queens in the big blind and I'm heaven. And I'm thinking oh please everyone fold because I'm going all in...ooops.

There's no "oops" about it. You made the right play. You have to detach that from the result. That kind of stuff is going to happen, and occasionally at the worst possible time.

Seriously, look at me 3 weeks ago. I could do no wrong. I finished 1st, 1st, and 3rd in the three tournaments I played in. When I had the best hand, it always held up. I was making the right move and it was always working.

Now, I can't do anything right. I make the same good moves (QQ hand aside), and I'm getting the opposite result. This is just how poker goes.

[PFunk]

Theres certain situations in tourneys like this where you can avoid losing all your money like this with a hand like QQ (for example), and someone calling with any ace, or any two overs...Not sure if this is one, but who knows..

Had you just called the bet and went all-in on the flop after seeing a safe looking board, since you would of been first to act, you might not have gotten a call and had to sweat two more cards to avoid any danger cards like an Ace, or King.....though you didnt have alot of chips so its highly likely you were getting called by any hand given the situation....But I've seen countless times people re-raising all in with pocket 9's-Q's and getting called by the original raiser because they have the chips to call, and they are holding KQ suited, AK, AJ etc etc....then they get spiked on the turn or river by an ace or something, when they more then likely would have folded to an all-in after the flop. This can be avoided alot of times by not overplaying pre-flop and seeing the board come out first...then you put the pressure on if it looks safe....Just one strategy/thoughts to consider.

Maybe not explaining it well, but I know what im trying to say (I think

Not sure you could have done anything different in this situation, you just didnt have the chips, and had you had more to re-raise with, dude probably would have folded I'd imagine

[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by PFunk

Theres certain situations in tourneys like this where you can avoid losing all your money like this with a hand like QQ (for example), and someone calling with any ace, or any two overs...Not sure if this is one, but who knows..

Had you just called the bet and went all-in on the flop after seeing a safe looking board, since you would of been first to act, you might not have gotten a call and had to sweat two more cards to avoid any danger cards like an Ace, or King.....though you didnt have alot of chips so its highly likely you were getting called by any hand given the situation....But I've seen countless times people re-raising all in with pocket 9's-Q's and getting called by the original raiser because they have the chips to call, and they are holding KQ suited, AK, AJ etc etc....then they get spiked on the turn or river by an ace or something, when they more then likely would have folded to an all-in after the flop. This can be avoided alot of times by not overplaying pre-flop and seeing the board come out first...then you put the pressure on if it looks safe....Just one strategy/thoughts to consider.

Maybe not explaining it well, but I know what im trying to say (I think

Not sure you could have done anything different in this situation, you just didnt have the chips, and had you had more to re-raise with, dude probably would have folded I'd imagine

By the same token, if the original raiser has TT and you decide to pull a stop n' go, you run the risk of the flop coming something like A K 6 and getting played off the hand.

[PFunk]

Of course...but if its heads-up, and you're already mentally commited to the hand, and prepared to go all-in pre-flop, you have nothing to lose but to try this if you have a few chips still to push in....It's not an automatic tactic, Im just discussing one other variation of play to consider in certain situations....probably more so when you actually have chips.

Can't tell you how many times when I first started playing poker I would re-raise with a huge stack of chips against a medium stack with a hand like QQ, maybe another re-raise, and we would get the money in pre-flop against AKo...then watch the board fall rainbow 3-8-4....turn 10....River....A

Could have took down the hand at any point besides the river.


P.

[noelsarchs]

you know, I'm not complaining about this specific beat. What I was noting was that it was literally the 10th time in a row where I had this hand and got beat on the turn or river with the ace. The odds of me having that type of record is what was stunning.

Now what is even funnier....I just played a $30 MTT freeroll and had AK beat by QQ.