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08-15-2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by texred1 For the love of god man, the word is "hence"
~dustin | And might I add CALLS FOR not 'cause for'.
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08-15-2006, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JM And might I add CALLS FOR not 'cause for'. | Your grammar-correcting post may be a "cause for" more griping about how to use English properly... I think it "calls for" you to get a negative rep "slap-on-the-wrist" if that happens but, since I'm so deathly afraid of your mighty hammer, I'll just sit here quietly instead.  | 
08-15-2006, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MacGrad 2. Time/Value factor: In a cash game, you can fold hand after hand for hours, yet still only lose the blinds (In a live game, that's only 3-4 SB + BB an hour); your chipstack holds its value relative to the blinds. In a tournament, you've already lost your buy-in (unless you make it to the money), and your chipstack value declines as the blinds increase. | Quite right. The blinds are relatively MUCH higher in any tournament than they are in a cash game. Unless you're playing WAY out of your bankroll, defending your blind shouldn't be much of an issue in a cash game. In a tourney you HAVE to defend your blinds in later levels (in many poorly structured tournaments 'later' = 'almost all'). I love my shift key, it can add so much emphasis to a post. However, I am a middling low-limit player, so I probably have no business even giving my opinion. It's the same reason none of the Patriots listen to that hoodie-wearing, uncoordinated geek Belichick guy. | 
08-15-2006, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MacGrad Your grammar-correcting post may be a "cause for" more griping about how to use English properly... I think it "calls for" you to get a negative rep "slap-on-the-wrist" if that happens but, since I'm so deathly afraid of your mighty hammer, I'll just sit here quietly instead.  | All right everyone -- HANDS IN THE AIR! STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARDS!!
THIS IS..... THE GRAMMAR POLICE!!!
Seriously guys -- while I agree that Ace's posts would be a tad more comprehensible if his writing were clearer, the last thing we need on this board is the Grammar Police.
I HATE the grammar police. Yes, I prefer that my students write clearly and correctly, but not because I somehow need them to follow the often archaic and illogical rules of grammar and punctuation, but rather because the only way one can clearly communicate one's thoughts is by following the agreed upon rules of expression.
But this is a message board -- if you can follow the train of thought, then please stop the nit-picking. Yes, some posts bother me a little, but if I can get over it, surely you can!
(signed)
an English professor
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08-15-2006, 04:16 PM
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08-15-2006, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bolgenmod -- if you can follow the train of thought, | I have no problem with a post I can follow along with. When I have to stop and figure out what was meant, or lose the meaning due to lack of punctuation, I wonder why I'm bothering. In general that is, not specifically AoR's (or anyone else's) posts. See, I have no problem with sentence fragments  .
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08-16-2006, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AceOnRiver ok your right im worng.that must be why im past he small stakes games and you are still playing them.you must know exactly how to beat these small stakes game since you still play them and have yet to beat them.i have no idea how to beat them since i have ALREADY BEAT THEM and am now playing the higher stakes.
so your totally right and im completely wrong.good luck to you in the future.hope you can get past those small stakes games some day | Ummm Ace - I am not trying to pile on here, but it is a bit arrogant to assume that you know more than anyone else simply because you play at "higher" stakes. Players today have many more tools at their disposal to teach themselves the skills necessary to play at most levels. There are some skills that must be learned at the table such as visual tells, but even that can be accelerated. Players play the limits that they are at for various reasons. Many simply have leaks. My leak is stuff. I take other peoples money and use it to get stuff. The result? Bankroll stays fairly constant and I do not move up. Oh well, I do not make a living at this so I do not need to.
Yeltzin is not being combative - he is trying to discuss specific points that he has a different view of. Yes - he does use a baiting style, but trust me - if he wanted to bring it, you would know.
There are many players here that possess great knowledge of the game. Speak and I regularly comment on specific hands - and sometimes have a difference of opinion. This does not mean that either of us is correct in any given situation, but rather we each have a different style that we bring to the game. He does not look down on my NL cash game simply because I play different limits, rather he offers suggestions on how to improve my play. I do not take his suggestions as fact simply because he plays at higher limits. I will examine and evaluate them because I have respect for his overall knowledge of the game. In the same manner - I would not trash someones Omaha8 play just because I have a better fundamental understanding of the game than most (most --- we DO have several good players here, but lots of rookies).
You beating the lower limit games does not give you instant validity on this (or any) message board. Posting clear relevant and thought provoking messages does. Ignore the urge to respond in a combative fashion and you will get more respect. | 
08-16-2006, 06:06 PM
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1. recreational, 4/8 and under
2. low limit, 5/10 to 20/40
3. middle limit, 30/60 to 200/400
4. high limit, 300/600 to 800/1600
5. big limit, 1k/2k | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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