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08-07-2006, 03:36 PM
|  | Poker Spellcaster | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NLHE cash table Age: 39
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Chips: 14,006 | | | The Worst Fold EVer This is easily the worst fold I've ever seen: http://www.pokerhand.org/?443630 . The pot is $366 and its another sixty cents for Villain to call. Yes, you read that right -- he folded for a 60-cent river raise in a $366 pot. I'm sure I had him beat, but this is just a silly fold. Its not “infinite” pot odds, but its about as close as you might ever get, because I just happened to have $90.60 left on the river. I put him on AK with my raise on the flop, but with his call maybe he had a jack. I would rather raise here and find out where I stand than dribble away chips later without a sense of where I’m at in the hand. When he bets the turn, so it could still be either AK or something like AJ, but less likely that he has AK with my flop raise. He must have assumed I had the flush on the river, but then why bet? Unless he is running a complete bluff here, this is just a horrible fold. Even Ax is obviously worth a call. | 
08-07-2006, 03:44 PM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lake Orion, MI Age: 38
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Chips: 5,848 | | | Re: The Worst Fold EVer Is it possible he accidentally clicked fold; I've done that before especially while MT'ing.
Did he say anything after the hand as I'd imagine folks were giving him $hit for that. | 
08-07-2006, 03:50 PM
|  | On the Bubble | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, TX Age: 36
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Chips: 199 | | | Re: The Worst Fold EVer OK, so it's only a $10 pot, but beat this fold: | Seat 2: FlackJ80 ($24.70 in chips) | | Seat 4: JK12x ($10.75 in chips) | | Seat 5: BigRickxxx1 ($23.25 in chips) | | Seat 8: jalsing [9D,9S] ($39.35 in chips) | | Seat 10: sardidimus ($22.60 in chips) |  |  |  | ANTES/BLINDS jalsing posts blind ($0.15), sardidimus posts blind ($0.25). PRE-FLOP FlackJ80 folds, JK12x calls $0.25, BigRickxxx1 folds, jalsing calls $0.10, sardidimus checks. FLOP [board cards 8H,9C,3S ] jalsing checks, sardidimus bets $0.70, JK12x folds, jalsing calls $0.70. TURN [board cards 8H,9C,3S,5D ] jalsing checks, sardidimus bets $2, jalsing bets $4, sardidimus calls $2. RIVER [board cards 8H,9C,3S,5D,9H ] jalsing checks, sardidimus bets $0.25, jalsing folds. SHOWDOWN
sardidimus wins $9.90. |
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08-07-2006, 04:07 PM
|  | Creativity Alliance | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Edmonton
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Chips: 5,690 | | | Re: The Worst Fold EVer I win this hands down.
3/6 limit, live at Bay101. I mucked the nuts to no bet. Not possbily the best hand, but the stone cold nuts - when it has been checked around on the river. I'll post the details later when I have time. I am an awesome poker player. | 
08-07-2006, 04:17 PM
|  | World Series Champ | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, England Age: 55
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Originally Posted by jalsing OK, so it's only a $10 pot, but beat this fold: | Seat 2: FlackJ80 ($24.70 in chips) | | Seat 4: JK12x ($10.75 in chips) | | Seat 5: BigRickxxx1 ($23.25 in chips) | | Seat 8: jalsing [9D,9S] ($39.35 in chips) | | Seat 10: sardidimus ($22.60 in chips) |  |  |  | ANTES/BLINDS jalsing posts blind ($0.15), sardidimus posts blind ($0.25). PRE-FLOP FlackJ80 folds, JK12x calls $0.25, BigRickxxx1 folds, jalsing calls $0.10, sardidimus checks. FLOP [board cards 8H,9C,3S ] jalsing checks, sardidimus bets $0.70, JK12x folds, jalsing calls $0.70. TURN [board cards 8H,9C,3S,5D ] jalsing checks, sardidimus bets $2, jalsing bets $4, sardidimus calls $2. RIVER [board cards 8H,9C,3S,5D,9H ] jalsing checks, sardidimus bets $0.25, jalsing folds. SHOWDOWN
sardidimus wins $9.90. |
| OK, I'm at work looking at this thread in a tiny window, but did you just fold QUAD 9's with a .25 bet out there?????? | 
08-07-2006, 04:19 PM
|  | Final Table | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Stonewall, Man. Canada Age: 44
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Chips: 56 | | | Re: The Worst Fold EVer Definitely may have been a mis-click. I flopped quads  in a single table s + g and accidentally folded it.  Ended up winning anyway , so it ended up being a funny story in the end.  | 
08-07-2006, 04:24 PM
| | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago
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Chips: 502 | | | Re: The Worst Fold EVer Worst than laying down quad 2s because you gave your opponent credit for having over quads with pocket 6s in the hole? http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/333360-post1.html | 
08-08-2006, 02:21 AM
|  | World Series Champ | | Join Date: Apr 2005
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Chips: 111 | | | Re: The Worst Fold EVer Makes me feel better that I am not the only one to have folded nut quads on the river. I have done it a couple of times multitabling.  | 
08-08-2006, 02:24 AM
|  | World Series Champ | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lakewood, CO Age: 37
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Chips: 1,861 | | | Re: The Worst Fold EVer Isn't it a good fold if he can't even beat a bluff and he doesn't want you to see his cards?
I mean, if the guy is on your buddylist already then yeah, it's a bad fold. But I don't know how games that size play.
However, when I watch hands like this I wonder... just how much harder are bigger games?
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08-08-2006, 02:17 PM
|  | Poker Spellcaster | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NLHE cash table Age: 39
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Chips: 14,006 | | | Re: The Worst Fold EVer Quote: |
Originally Posted by smoore However, when I watch hands like this I wonder... just how much harder are bigger games? | There are fewer bad players as you move up. There are more decent/solid players, but they are also more predictable because they are solid. Moving up has the "winnowing effect" -- level 1 winners move up to level 2, level 2 winners move up to level 3, etc., but at each level there will still be weak and strong players. The weak ones just haven't been picked off yet and driven back down to the previous level.
This is what everyone means when they talk about "game selection." In my mind, its not so much "game selection" as "opponent selection." In other words, a game is only "good" if there are some weak players at the table -- so you still focus on isolating against the weak players to win chips.
Where you still make most of your money is (a) the bad players who bluff off their chips (or try to bluff and then fold with nearly infinite pot odds), (b) those confrontations where the loser has a good second best hand, or (c) the LAGs/maniacs against whom you can simply wait for a good hand to isolate and play back against them. |  | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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