[ChipSnob]

I have not been on ChipTalk in a while but I thought that I would have to share this story.

$50 Tournament at a local casino About 60 entries.

Very First Hand of the tourney:

I am sitting on Big Slick in middle position
Everyone folds in front of me.

I raise it up to a little more than 3 times the big blind

Then the small blind goes all in.

I am thinking to myself that this guy probably sitting on a pair.

I said to myself this is a horrible call but if I win I sitting pretty good after the first hand. So I said what the hell I will gamble, I call

Sure enough he had a pair JJ

JJ held up

Nothing but low cards came out. Almost hit a straight on the board.

But I did not even get to play one flop.



Funny thing was I was sitting at the bar prior to the Tourney and this guy sat down next to me and started talking about the tournament.

Once again, Big Slick fails for me

[Dissolved]

Live or die on AK. 60 players, I dont blame him for pushing all in. You probably should have folded, but if JJ rasied you would have called and missed the flop anyways. Sorry to hear, Hope you enjoyed the rest of your casino play.

[ChipSnob]

I did not play any other games. I did get there a couple hours early and eat dinner before hand. Then I waited around at the bar after dinner to just end up playing one hand

Oh well. at least it can not get worse than that. It can only get better.

LOL

[Seitz333]

Originally Posted by Dissolved

Live or die on AK. 60 players, I dont blame him for pushing all in.

Your kidding right? Push all-in on the first hand with JJ PRE-FLOP into a normal raised pot? or with any hand for that matter. No reason in the world to do that, the call with AK is probably worse than the push.

Just my .02

Chuck

[ChipSnob]

Originally Posted by Seitz333

Your kidding right? Push all-in on the first hand with JJ PRE-FLOP into a normal raised pot? or with any hand for that matter. No reason in the world to do that, the call with AK is probably worse than the push.

Just my .02

Chuck

Oh I know that calling was bad but I wanted to gamble a little.

I like to get ahead early and play a little riskier early on and then coast.
I hate playing a long tourney and missing the cut off.
I definately think that the all in bet with JJ was horrible. I also left out that someone else had called my raise in between us. He folded after the all in bet.

[Dissolved]

Originally Posted by Seitz333

Your kidding right? Push all-in on the first hand with JJ PRE-FLOP into a normal raised pot? or with any hand for that matter. No reason in the world to do that, the call with AK is probably worse than the push.

Just my .02

Chuck

Depends what casino your at. the 20-30buyin tournaments held in Cali poker rooms have VERY fast and high blinds, so if you dont get a hand you'll get blinded off. The JJ allin was stupid, but it worked didnt it? its a gamble to double up early and have a table advantage.

[jldecarlo]

Originally Posted by Dissolved

Depends what casino your at. the 20-30buyin tournaments held in Cali poker rooms have VERY fast and high blinds, so if you dont get a hand you'll get blinded off. The JJ allin was stupid, but it worked didnt it? its a gamble to double up early and have a table advantage.

This is true in most casino tourneys I have played. It becames an all-in fest very early, so aggressive play (combined with a little luck) is the only way. Keeping the blind structure and your M in mind is crucial.

L

[uncleto]

Originally Posted by ChipSnob

Oh I know that calling was bad but I wanted to gamble a little.

I like to get ahead early and play a little riskier early on and then coast.
I hate playing a long tourney and missing the cut off.
I definately think that the all in bet with JJ was horrible. I also left out that someone else had called my raise in between us. He folded after the all in bet.

If you think the all-in was horrible, what did you think he had? If you thought he had AA or KK, you have to lay down AK. You were literally betting he was pushing with something besides AA or KK. I have no idea what the structure was, but this guy was betting you didn't have AA, KK, or QQ and wanted to take the pot down right there so you didn't have a chance to catch with AK, AQ, KQ, AJ, or whatever you were raising with. The all-in might be a bit much, and risky, but I don't mind the reasoning behind his push. Calling pushes with AK pre-flop is NOT where it's at. Search the strategy forum for intelligent posts by jojo detailing why AK is a great hand (it rhymes with old fequity).