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Old 05-07-2006, 10:52 PM
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DrawMonkey strikes again?

Two hands for your amusement/critiques. Both from Friday night at the Foxwoods 1/2 game. Hero is in the 2 seat, different villains in each hand.

Hand One
Hero [$350] is in the SB w/ 8 7
Villain 1 [$280] is in seat 3. Nice but mediocre college kid.
Villain 2 [$300] is in seat 10. Decent unimaginative player.
The rest of the table has their initial buy in or less ($100).

2 limpers, Villian 2 raises to 15, Button calls, Hero calls, Villain 1 calls.

Flop [$66] 9 6 4
Hero checks, Villain 1 checks, Villain 2 bets $25, Button folds, Hero calls, Villain 1 raises to $50. Villain 2 folds(!). Hero calls.

Turn [$191] [9 6 4 ] T
Hero bets $100. Villian 1 says "That hit you didn't it. I just can't get away from this hand." Villian 1 goes all in [4 4 ]. Hero calls and river is a blank.



Hand Two
Hero [$700] is on the button w/ A 9
Villain 1 [$180] is in seat 7. New kid, no real reads.
Villain 2 [$150] is in seat 10. Donkey that I've been itching to get a hand against. He was up to $500 at one point, but donked it all away to other players.

2 folds, Villian 1 raises to 10, 1 fold, Villian 2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero calls, both blinds call.

Flop [$60] 8 7 3
Villain bets $50, Villain 2 calls, Hero calls, 3 folds.

Turn [$210] [8 7 3 ] A
Villian 1 goes all in ($120), Villian 2 calls. Hero calls. Villian 1 is unhappy with my call, and asks if I have a set or 2 pair. I calmly shake my head no. I had put him on an overpair, but apparently he must have had AK/AQ based on his reaction at the showdown. Maybe he still had KK/QQ/JJ. I wasn't worried about Villian 2's hand, so I also thought my A may be good.

River is 5 . Hero scoops the pot. Villian one storms off saying something about donkeys.

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Old 05-07-2006, 11:37 PM
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Nice wins, looks like a profitable night for you.
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Re: DrawMonkey strikes again?

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Hand One
Flop [$66] 9 6 4
Hero checks, Villain 1 checks, Villain 2 bets $25, Button folds, Hero calls, Villain 2 raises to $50. Villain 1 folds(!). Hero calls.
Typo I'm sure - hard to raise yourself.

Nice scoops.
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Old 05-08-2006, 08:45 AM
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Nice hand, some folks just don't get it... it is gambling after all.

My friend went to Foxwoods a few weeks ago, he told me his tale (he's an action man, loves to gamble at the table, just ask the 4 folks he busted out friday with horrible hands, not on draws, just all in pre-flop playing people not cards(in their defense he had horrible hands and caught every conceivable lucky break..hand after hand), I was the only one the make money off of him thanks for getting in the black for the night)
Anyways, he plays the 5/10 tables has about $5,000 in front of him.
Friend gets dealt A,2 suited . Forget how preflop went(I was buzzedc and he was...well much more buzzed), but it was down to 3(must have been a $100 raise or sumptin')
Flop comes 2,2,5
villain bets $200, other guy folds , friend raises to $500, villain calls.
Turn 5,
villain checks, friend checks...
river 2.
Villain bets $2000, friend looks down at his quads and thinks for several minutes (villain is a pro player) he being an action aggressive player would typically go over the top for another 2-3 grand, but instead cold calls. Villain shows pocket 5's and is pissed because the friend didn't go over the top...anyways quads got beat by quads. Friend was extremely happy that he read the guy right, but had to call...how can you fold quads to anything...
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Re: DrawMonkey strikes again?

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Typo I'm sure - hard to raise yourself.
Whoops. Yeah, Villian 1 check/min-raised hit set, Villian 2 folded. I don't see how he didn't check/raise all in with his set, but people love min-raising their sets. I'm not complaining.
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Old 05-08-2006, 09:01 AM
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Villain shows pocket 5's and is pissed because the friend didn't go over the top...anyways quads got beat by quads. Friend was extremely happy that he read the guy right, but had to call...how can you fold quads to anything...
Wow, now that's a great read. I usually play 2/5, but since the new room has opened, many of the 15-20 1/2 games can be jucier than the 2-3 2/5 games that are spread.

I've been crushing the 1/2 game for a couple months now. I'm really torn whether to move back up or not. Some of the 2/5 games can be painfully tight.
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Villian one storms off saying something about donkeys.
Post-flop, you had the right pot odds to call with your draws. So screw donkey-boy!

But I don't know about calling 7xBB ($14) in early position (SB) with 78s. That's really more of a late position, get-in cheap, kind of hand. Even though you were only playing 1-2 NL, I'd say that was an overpriced call.

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But I don't know about calling 7xBB ($14) in early position (SB) with 78s. That's really more of a late position, get-in cheap, kind of hand. Even though you were only playing 1-2 NL, I'd say that was an overpriced call.

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True. But in this game, the preflop raise of 15 was standard. I mainly called because:
Villian one had a pretty good sized stack
I knew villian one had either a big A or a big pair
I knew villian one would/could overplay his hand and I could stack him

As long as the villians stacks are deep, I'll make loose calls with hands that can crack standard opening hands that are overplayed. As it turns out, I stacked villian 2, when he made 2 different mistakes in the hand.
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Hand 1:
No problems with how you played it. I might have also led out on the flop instead of checking.
Villain 1 boffed this hand. Mini-raise with the set is silly. He could really put the heat on you with a serious raise, like $25 + the pot (probably just a push), and the pot would probably be his.

Hand 2:
No problems here either. I might also raise the flop, about 30% of the time. If you're making good decisions, and the other players are calling you a donkey, then you know you're doing the right thing.
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Hand 1:
No problems with how you played it. I might have also led out on the flop instead of checking.
Villain 1 boffed this hand. Mini-raise with the set is silly. He could really put the heat on you with a serious raise, like $25 + the pot (probably just a push), and the pot would probably be his.
Agreed. I probably lead out here 25-35% of the time. If Villain 1 check raises AI, I would have folded.


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No problems here either. I might also raise the flop, about 30% of the time. If you're making good decisions, and the other players are calling you a donkey, then you know you're doing the right thing.
Yep. I was just confused by his comment, especially after being upset at himself when I called the turn push. He was worried about 2 pair or a set. That means he had either AK or KK I would think. If he had KK, pushing with an A and being upset an A with the flush draw called with odds is funny. If he had AK, betting the pot into 5 people with only 2 overcards is silly. I was hoping he stuck around, so I could show him more of my donkey ways, but alas, he moved to another table, and I was too lazy to follow.
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