From here on out, i refer to AK as Martina Hingis

jojobinks · #1 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 10:37 AM

b/c, in fact, in wins quite a bit more than it's share:

against a random hand
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 65.7787 % 64.93% 00.85% { AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 34.2213 % 33.37% 00.85% { random }

against two random hands
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 48.8705 % 47.95% 00.92% { AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 25.5737 % 24.68% 00.89% { random }
Hand 3: 25.5558 % 24.66% 00.89% { random }

Against a loose raising range:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 54.4330 % 48.46% 05.98% { AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 45.5670 % 39.59% 05.98% { 77+, A9s+, KQs, AJo+ }

against a maniacal raiser:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 59.4804 % 56.73% 02.75% { AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 40.5196 % 37.77% 02.75% { 22+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

against a loose raiser and a loose caller (ps, these numbers are why you should often reraise with ak, instead of just calling)
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 35.9401 % 32.02% 03.92% { AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 32.6692 % 29.89% 02.78% { 77+, ATs+, KJs+, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 3: 31.3906 % 29.34% 02.05% { 22+, ATs+, KJs+, AJo+, KJo+ }

against a tight-a$$ raiser (if he's this damn tight, you can consider playing it carefully).
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 43.5184 % 36.39% 18.16% { AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 56.4816 % 52.64% 18.16% { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }

ahopen78 · #2 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jojobinks

tight-a$$

So this is why its called Martina Hingis?

I agree!

Dwight87 · #3 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 12:02 PM

Maria Sharapova may be a better 'looks good' hand...

scottwire · #4 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 12:51 PM

It is interesting that you posted this today. I made a play last night based on instinct and wonder what you think.

Sorry I don't have the hand history.

.10/.20 blinds, 6 max table, we both have about $20

Button: Me with

Folded to me, I raise to $0.60
SB raises to $12

The game has been pretty loose aggressive but I've never seen a monster raise like that.

I think for a second and push all in.

He calls and shows

Board comes

or something like that and I take it down.

Guy: "how can you call that?"
Me: "That raise didn't seem right"
Guy: "I meant to bet $2"
Me: "I didn't know that"
Guy: "how can you call that?"
Me: "I figured I was at worst a coin flip unless you had AA/KK"
Guy: "this isn't a tournament"

I figured he was either trying to buy it since I was raising the button a lot or he had a small pair.

Either way, unless he has AA or KK, I'm at worst a coin flip to win the pot.

I felt a good amount of the time he would have a worse hand.

Yes it is high variance, but I figure I am slightly +EV.

What's your thoughts?

VARoadstter · #5 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 12:56 PM

Hingis? I like the hand even more now!

zbme · #6 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 01:20 PM

I always heard AKo was called Anna Kournikova. Looks good.... never wins.

jojobinks · #7 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbme

I always heard AKo was called Anna Kournikova. Looks good.... never wins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...or_poker_hands

you missed the point. i'm calling it hingis b/c it looks good and wins quite a bit. the anna kournikova thing makes no sense...
anyhow, no matter what wikipedia says, ak is not anna kournikova...that's KQs...and it's because it looks great but doesn't play very well.

zbme · #8 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jojobinks

you missed the point. i'm calling it hingis b/c it looks good and wins quite a bit. the anna kournikova thing makes no sense...

I think the idea is that people often over play this hand and it does not mean that it is an automatic winner. People often lose with this hand by not playing it correctly.

against a random hand
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 65.7787 % 64.93% 00.85% { AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 34.2213 % 33.37% 00.85% { random }

This means preflop AK is only slightly less than 2 to one odds. With odds like that, going all in is a horrible move.

dimperdoo · #9 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scottwire

I think for a second and push all in.

He calls and shows

What's your thoughts?

funny... "how could you call that?" -It's an offer to good to refuse.

smoore · #10 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 01:44 PM

I don't mind the play at all, given the read. I think I can help one aspect of your game today though, table chat:

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottwire

Guy: "how can you call that?"
Me: "I put you on AQ" (putting opponent on absurdly specific hand)
Guy: "I meant to bet $2"
Me: "you suck at computers" (insult he opened the door for)
Guy: "how can you call that?"
Me: "I hate money" (he will agree)
Guy: "this isn't a tournament"
Me: "what?!?! stupid software... I signed up for a sitngo!" (if he believes this, he thinks UR DUM)

how2tilt a donkey.