[jojobinks]

not mine...take a look:

PokerStars Game #4768964269: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/04/28 - 11:20:19 (ET)
Table 'Roberbauxa' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: hugo_queiros ($29.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Jenkins44 ($90.75 in chips)
Seat 3: VeniceLover ($24.10 in chips)
Seat 4: Saddlepoint ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: 4 tens again ($14.45 in chips)
Seat 6: Wizard42 ($13.75 in chips)
Seat 7: ninja T ($135.05 in chips)
Seat 8: mwfeldman ($12.05 in chips)
Seat 9: aces1017777 ($7.05 in chips)
ninja T: posts small blind $0.10
mwfeldman: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mwfeldman [Jh Jd Ac Jc]
aces1017777: calls $0.25
hugo_queiros: calls $0.25
Jenkins44: calls $0.25
VeniceLover: folds
Saddlepoint: folds
4 tens again: calls $0.25
Wizard42: folds
ninja T: calls $0.15
mwfeldman: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 9h 6h]
ninja T: bets $0.50
mwfeldman: folds
aces1017777: folds
hugo_queiros: folds
Jenkins44: raises $2.45 to $2.95
4 tens again: folds
ninja T: calls $2.45
*** TURN *** [2h 9h 6h] [Th]
ninja T: bets $2
Jenkins44: raises $11.05 to $13.05
hugo_queiros said, "straight flush??"
ninja T: raises $11.05 to $24.10
hugo_queiros said, "lool"
mwfeldman said, "sweet"
Jenkins44 said, "u serious"
hugo_queiros said, "i'm glad i'm out.."
ninja T said, "k"
Jenkins44 said, "can I really lay this down"
mwfeldman said, "what do you have?"
Jenkins44 said, "nut flush"
jenkins....??

pot is 38.65
it's $11 to call, which would leave jenkins with about $63, the pot at ~$50, and Ninja has him covered.

what's your thought process here?

[CaptLego]

I thnk you made a good fold.

As jenkins?
(These would be easier if we didn't have to total up the pot...)

So... ninja claims he has the Kh, and we claim we've got the Ah.
If those are both true, then we're looking great unless ninja also has the 7h8h..

If ninja has all three of those h, then I'd have expected a little stonger play on the flop, so I'd assign a reasonable probability that he doesn't have 'em all.

The pot is X, and it costs Y to call...

There's still the river to come, and we both have more $ yet... The river card probably won't change things, but there could be additional betting.

I think I'd call this bet (the pot odds > chance he doesn't have the sf), and see if that scares him -- see what he does on the river.

[jojobinks]

edited at bottom of OP to include pot and stack sizes at the turn decision

[Poboy]

First of all, jenkins should have kept his mouth shut. Do we know anytihng about ninja_T?
By leading the flop and getting raised, ninja_T ought to know jenkins has the nut flush, but ninja_T could be a bad PLO player, and thus not realize it. When he gets raised on the turn, just about anybody can figure jenkins has the nut flush. That means that ninja_T has either a straight flush, or is bluffing/semibluffing. He could have a set of 9's and is just gambling the board is going to pair, plus maybe getting the fold.

For jenkins, I think there is no way he can call. It's either raise or fold. Actually, I take that back. Calling is good if jenkins thinks he's bluffing. Then he should be all in on the river if it doesn't pair the board.
There's virtually no way ninja_T is not putting the rest of his money in on the river, unless he chickens out on his bluff. At least that's what I would do. Jenkins shouldn'tve asked, "straight flush?". If ninja_T were bluffing here, he's a dangerous player. Personally, I would reraise all-in if I thought ninja_T were either bad enough to think a non-nut flush is good, or if he were a good enough player to put this pressure on with a bluff.
If ninja T is an average player, smart enough to have figured out jenkins had the nut flush, then I'd very reluctantly fold.

[azureXsmurF]

I think the questionhas already been covered.... but I just wanna point out you probably shoulda dumped your hand preflop You're only real possibilty is the nut club flush, because the chance of getting a set of Jacks is slim to none.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by azureXsmurF

I think the questionhas already been covered.... but I just wanna point out you probably shoulda dumped your hand preflop You're only real possibilty is the nut club flush, because the chance of getting a set of Jacks is slim to none.

i generally don't make a habit of folding in the BB when there's no raise

[azureXsmurF]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

i generally don't make a habit of folding in the BB when there's no raise

/me was still looking at other guy's action. /me slaps self.

Guess I had a brain fart there.

[Fins]

@ 10c/25c... I don't see laying this down... I call and probably suck it up on an unpaired board and call an AI... could depend on how many hands I had w/ ninja and reads though. With just 7 hearts left putting him on 78h just seems too much but idk not the best PLO playa.

[PFunk]

Im a little confused, but if we are the hand with the nut flush, I would call....Ninja probably has the 7 8 of hearts, but I am going to pay to find out....Its too hard and subjective here to make an informed decision about the hand, but I would call...Ninja T didnt even cap the pot when he made his supposed straight flush, which could indicate he wants you to raise, or he just made a smaller flush....If he's a good player its the latter, if he's some donk that just came in from the hold'em tables to check out a new game, he probably has the K high flush....Either way, I say call.

We still have plenty of money left over to get it all back in another pot off him-


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[PFunk]

Wait....I just took another look and can now see that Ninja has us covered, and there is still another card to come, which cannot help us, but only hurt us if we are actually winning the hand....this changes things, but I'd still call to see the river...We have position, and if he doesnt cap the pot on the river, we can call a small 7 dollar or so bet and feel ok about it.....But a fold is definetly an option, we just dont have enough information without being in the hand/at the table-



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