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Old 03-06-2006, 12:28 PM
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Odd situation -- live STT at Mirage

Mirage, single table tournament, $100+vig buy-in. I am heads-up against a Robert Varkonyi look-alike (might have been his brother), so we'll call him "Bob." 1st pays $700, 2nd pays $300.

I have about 15,000, Bob has about 5000. Bob is fairly tight, seems moderately experience, kind of nervous, and has simply sat tight while I single-handedly knocked out every other player. I wished this happened all the time, and everything has run unbelievably well for me from the very start.

Blinds are 300-600. I am on the button and raise to 1200 with QJo. Bob calls. Pot is 2400, and Bob has 3800 left.

Flop is Q98 rainbow. I bet 1000. Bob says "call," kind of nudges his whole stack forward about an inch, and flips his cards face up on the table -- he has 67.

I say, "I only bet 1000."

Bob replies, "Oh."

What do you do next?
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Old 03-06-2006, 12:31 PM
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Re: Odd situation -- live STT at Mirage

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Mirage, single table tournament, $100+vig buy-in. I am heads-up against a Robert Varkonyi look-alike (might have been his brother), so we'll call him "Bob." 1st pays $700, 2nd pays $300.

I have about 15,000, Bob has about 5000. Bob is fairly tight, seems moderately experience, kind of nervous, and has simply sat tight while I single-handedly knocked out every other player. I wished this happened all the time, and everything has run unbelievably well for me from the very start.

Blinds are 300-600. I am on the button and raise to 1200 with QJo. Bob calls. Pot is 2400, and Bob has 3800 left.

Flop is Q98 rainbow. I bet 1000. Bob says "call," kind of nudges his whole stack forward about an inch, and flips his cards face up on the table -- he has 67.

I say, "I only bet 1000."

Bob replies, "Oh."

What do you do next?
Verbals are binding, its just a call.
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Old 03-06-2006, 12:32 PM
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Re: Odd situation -- live STT at Mirage

show your cards, and re-raise him all in. Since he's tight, he will see that he is beat and drawing to 8 outs. Another Q or J doesn't help complete his straight...

But either way, your going to get all your money in the pot on that one...a made hand against a draw?

You also have enough chips to make a move like that...even if he doubles up, and if he's as tight as you say he is, he will fold to almost any raise...
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Re: Odd situation -- live STT at Mirage

Technically I think his hand is killed also, right? I mean the call is binding so he owes 1k, but then he flipped up his cards and should have them killed. Too bad, he's dead to a 5, but thinks he's open ended.
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Re: Odd situation -- live STT at Mirage

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he will see that he is beat and drawing to 8 outs.
he only has 4 outs here. at the mirage, his hand is not dead.

sucks for him, but you have to move all in here. don't show your cards, you want him to call you thinking he has 8 outs.

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Re: Odd situation -- live STT at Mirage

I say let him call and push on the next card, unless it's a 5...
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Re: Odd situation -- live STT at Mirage

What do I do? I push Bob back 2800 then Burn & Turn. Action to you.
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Re: Odd situation -- live STT at Mirage

wait for the ruling and then act accordingly.

if it's just a call, then push the turn if he doesn't hit.
if it's a push, then call.

i'd be happy to get it all in on that flop, with your chip lead, once i've seen his cards.
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Re: Odd situation -- live STT at Mirage

I'm staying at the Mirage this weekend, do they offer the $100 STT on weekends? I was thinking of doing the $400 sunday night tourney, but I'd like to try a STT there before hand.
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Flip the Jack up and say "All in"
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