[SingleMaltFan]

would you have folded on the come to a nut flush here...this was very very early in a $5 +.50 Sng, read on the AI'er was fairly solid, showed one or two "real" hands, otherwise limited read..

a) would you have called here?
b) would you have played this different from another point in the game
c) should have i been more or less aggressive prior to the all-in bet...

(btw i finished 3rd...ITM...)

Saw Flop | Saw Turn | Saw River | Saw Showdown | Won

PokerStars Game #4186255589: Tournament #20810958, Hold'em No Limit -
Table '20810958 1' Seat #4 is the button

MP2 - t1540
MP3 - t1480
MP4 - t1630
HERO - t1630
SB - t1480
BB - t1480
UTG - t1260
UTG+1 - t1500
MP1 - t1500

PREFLOP undefined
HERO is Button with 6 A
2 folds, MP1 calls t20, MP2 raises t20 to t40, MP3 calls t40, MP4 calls t40, HERO calls t40, 2 folds, MP1 calls t20.

FLOP t230 (5 players)
8 5 8
MP1 checks, MP2 bets t20, 1 fold, MP4 raises t120 to t140, HERO raises t120 to t260, MP1 raises t1200 to t1460, 3 folds.

Final Pot: t910

[99%evil]

Either you're staring at a lower flush draw or someone who called a small raise with connectors (8,9 or 7,8. maybe 8,10 , 6,8 or A,8 suited) It's too much of a bet for me to call all my chips on a draw even with two to come. If the guy does have the 8 or already has the fh (maybe pocket 5's) some of your outs also make him the nuts (if he pairs his hole card). You don't have the odds to make the call and you've still got plenty of chips left after making the raise to still be in the game.

[Spaceman Spiff]

The odds aren't there and this guy is screaming that he has an 8 and therefore has you beat. Plus with the paired board, you may still lose to a full house even if you make the flush. Let it go.

[SingleMaltFan]

sounds like i did the right thing then..

btw...he (the raiser) finished out-of-the-money..

so say this was later in the tourney...?? maybe on the bubble..any different...?
i'm thinkin..probably not...??

1malt

[coyote]

bummer dude. gotta let the hand go there.

I don't really like your minimum reraise here with only a draw.

[jojobinks]

preflop: fold
flop: fold
after he reraises you: fold

preflop: you're facing a raise with a bad hand. sure it's a minraise...but it's also a multiway pot. you make the flush 5% of the time. the rest of the time you lose money. get out now.

flop: there's a bet and a good sized raise ahead of you, and the board is paired, which means you may be drawing dead. fold now. it's 2:1 against you to make a non-nut hand.

after reraise: old boy just c/r'ed all in. either he or the first raiser has you beat. and...dude...you're drawing to a non-nut hand.

get out.

[tomb1]

Originally Posted by SingleMaltFan

so say this was later in the tourney...?? maybe on the bubble..any different...?
i'm thinkin..probably not...??

In a different point in a tourney when you were short-stacked, this could be a hand to make your final stand -- if you had position, were first to act, responding to a bully, a harmless board, etc.

But with the board and the betting action you've seen, I think this is a lay-down. I also think your min-raise sticks out as something not to do, even without MP1 lying in wait with his check raise.

Even playing Ace-rag (yeah, I know they were soooted) gets you into this kind of trouble too often, as Jojo said.

[yeltzen]

My cards would have been in the muck before his chips got pushed in. Ya know, if it were a live tournament.
You can't call that with a flush draw. Pot odds or no pot odds.

[yeltzen]

As for later in a tournament, I hate calling for all of my chips any time in a tournament. You lose part of the value of the flush draw - getting the other guy to fold by being first-in. If I were really desperate I might do it (if the pot was huge and I had hardly anything left, for example), but I usually want to be the first one all-in, not calling it.

[GabeManis]

Your min raise is DISGUSTING! I would have either flat called (expecting in hindsight that MP1 would have pushed and you would have saved 240) or decided right there to make a move and push all-in. I don't like the all-in option on the draw, so that kind of points to call/fold.

Think about it, if someone has an 8 here and decides to slow play, you get a free card. If that free card makes you a flush you haven't given anything away about your draw and you will likely get a whole hell of a lot of chips from him anyway.

Gabe