[yeltzen]

Played at Stank's last night. I had this hand; just wanted to see what everyone else would do.

I don't know everyone's exact stack, but mine was big. We started with 1,000 chips and I had about 3,200 (only 7 people in the game). Blinds are 50/100.

I have TT in the big blind. The player UTG+1 calls, another player calls, the small blind calls, and I raise to 400. The UTG+1 player calls and the others fold. Flop is:

A A K

I check and he goes all in for 625. So the pot now is 1625. The guy is definitely one of the loosest players in our game. This night he was playing stuff like Q4o, 32s, etc against a raise. I was having a harder time than usual with the decision because to call, I had to include my purple $500 Desert Sands chip (Stank doesn't have any $500 Dunes). What would you do?

[omar]

Fold.

[Wylecoyo]

Lay it down. Historically I have found that if the flop brings scary over cards without simultaneously improving me to at least a set (instead of A/A/K, say the flop had come A/A/10) that my hand will only get worse with more cards rather than better.

[ky70]

I think any player is capable of limping into the pot with a Kx so I probably fold. The fact that the guy didn't push all-in preflop would puzzle me...and what hand did he start with that made him put 40% of his chips in the pot in early position (though he may not be considering position based on your descritiption of him).

I played in a game last night and I got middle pairs (88,99,1010) 6 times and was not having great luck with them. I lost with them the first 4 times I played them using a mix of 2 raises and 2 limps preflop and I was very frustrated as the flop kept producing multiple overcards everytime. I tried continuation bets the 2 times that I led the action but I wasn't succesfull. Fortunately, the last 2 times (the 5th and 6th time) I got middle pairs and raised preflop, I took the pots down right there.

[tomb1]

I think a loose guy (or was it Kat or another fem?) who limps in UTG-ish then calls a big raise (compared to his stack) pre-flop, is more likely to have an Ace or a King in his hand than anything else. OK, maybe about the same probability of a pocket pair, but still pretty likely. Having an Ace becomes a little less likely when 2 of 'em come out on the board, but still...

I'm probably 50/50 between fold and call here, depending on the player. Since I have him covered and can take him out, maybe 60/40 to call. Since it's "Yeltzen Stank And That Yinzer Crowd" I'd probably call fer sure.

Methinks there is a strange ending to this story.

[SpeakEasy]

Raise more PF -- maybe 700 or 800 total. On the flop, push and put him to the test. Pushing here is obviously better than checking and then calling -- especially if you're going to call anyway.

[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by SpeakEasy

Raise more PF -- maybe 700 or 800 total. On the flop, push and put him to the test. Pushing here is obviously better than checking and then calling -- especially if you're going to call anyway.

Against someone that didn't play like a maniac, I would have put him all-in.
But this is a guy who I know is going to push all in with pretty much anything there, K or no K, A or no A. So I want to give him a chance to do that. He might call my all in with something worse, but I doubt it.

[SpaceMonkey]

Push the flop.

[vrecksler]

Originally Posted by SpeakEasy

Raise more PF -- maybe 700 or 800 total. On the flop, push and put him to the test. Pushing here is obviously better than checking and then calling -- especially if you're going to call anyway.

I like this advice a lot post-flop, and am against checking in this situation. With a big stack I may lead out here and put my opponent all-in if I think they did not hit, or that they will push with nothing if it is checked to them. When the flop comes up I am probably going to assume he has no A since two are on the board, so then it comes down to whether or not he has a K and given how loose the player sounds I would probably not give them credit for much.

At the very least I am going to put out a continuation bet (if they have been working thus far) to try and take the pot down right there and if I am raised I can consider my odds and make a decision.

[yeltzen]

There really wasn't a continuation bet, though. He only had 600 and the pot was 1000. So if I bet anything I'm committed. It's either all-in, check/fold, check/call.

Basically, I put him on a hand preflop. When the flop came out, I didn't think he'd call an all-in from me with the hand I was thinking. I thought my only chance to get all his chips was to check. Of course, when he went all in, suddenly my easy decision didn't seem so easy.