[yeltzen]

Okay, so I'm up here at Kat's and I helped her play in a $2+.20 NL tourney on P* last night. Her favorite thing to do on the tough hands is ask me for advice then yell at me when I'm wrong. Anyways, there's 2094 to start and it's down to about 52 when she doubles up on a goofy hand where she has AJs vs. AJs and she hits a flush. On the very next hand, the guy she just beat goes all in again, and Kat asks me what she should do (call or go all in):

Kat is UTG+2 with 47,000 chips... blinds are 2000/4000.
UTG goes all-in (TILT RAISE). UTG+1 folds.

Kat has KK. It's 20,900 to call.

What do you do? No read on the table, Kat just got moved to it. Table has a couple big stacks (100,000+), a few low stacks (11,000-20,000) and the rest mid stacks like Kat. I thought it was a pretty easy decision to just go all in and isolate the UTG player. Unfortunately, someone raised behind her with aces and she busted out in 52nd. That led to a swift punch to the balls for me. I didn't really see any other way to play it. If she just called and the guy went all in behind her, I guess she could fold, but that would be pretty hard to do after half her stack was in there... especially if the guy turned over AKs or QQ. If the guy called behind her, the flop was rags so she would have went all-in anyways.

UTG had 33. Did I deserve potentially not having kids over this?



Ooops I forgot she used my name to play, so I can get the hand:
PokerStars Game #4090032909: Tournament #20002507, Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1500/3000) - 2006/02/25 - 01:36:02 (ET)
Table '20002507 60' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: $Poker$4:20 (26607 in chips)
Seat 2: Jedisolo007 (85105 in chips)
Seat 3: Wheel Base (138144 in chips)
Seat 4: podreedo (54820 in chips)
Seat 5: Nochy (153718 in chips)
Seat 6: Iamrurob (81199 in chips)
Seat 7: RideDaRiver (21058 in chips)
Seat 8: Fiat Guy (5966 in chips)
Seat 9: yeltzen (47494 in chips)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yeltzen [Kc Kd]
RideDaRiver: raises 17908 to 20908 and is all-in
Fiat Guy: folds
yeltzen: raises 26436 to 47344 and is all-in
$Poker$4:20: folds
Jedisolo007: raises 26436 to 73780
Wheel Base: folds
podreedo: folds
Nochy: folds
Iamrurob: folds
*** FLOP *** [8h 5s 2d]
*** TURN *** [8h 5s 2d] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [8h 5s 2d Ac] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
yeltzen: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
Jedisolo007: shows [Ad Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Deuces)
RideDaRiver: shows [3s 3c] (two pair, Threes and Deuces)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 121446 Main pot 68574. Side pot 52872. | Rake 0
Board [8h 5s 2d Ac 2c]
Seat 2: Jedisolo007 showed [Ad Ah] and won (121446) with a full house, Aces full of Deuces

[tomb1]

Originally Posted by yeltzen

Her favorite thing to do on the tough hands is ask me for advice then yell at me when I'm wrong.

Yeah, that's my address too, buddy....

But I call here 100% of the time.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by tomb1

Yeah, that's my address too, buddy....

But I call here 100% of the time.

easy push.

[yeltzen]

Here was the real highlight of the night, though:

Originally Posted by PokerStars

Hello yeltzen,

We have received a complaint regarding your use of inappropriate
language at our tables. After reviewing the chat log (see below), it
was decided to remove your chat privileges for a period of 1 month.
Your language was highly offensive and completely unacceptable.

Thanks sweetheart.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by yeltzen

Here was the real highlight of the night, though:



Thanks sweetheart.

i put it at 66% that that is addressed to me.

sorry, B, but i mostly ignore "obnoxious yeltzen" nowadays. and we didn't sit together thursday night...

[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

i put it at 66% that that is addressed to me.

sorry, B, but i mostly ignore "obnoxious yeltzen" nowadays. and we didn't sit together thursday night...

Uh... what? She played under my name last night, and this is the e-mail I got from P* this morning. "Thanks sweetheart" was addressed to her!

[tomb1]

And she's crowing about it in another thread!

[noelsarchs]

Originally Posted by yeltzen

Here was the real highlight of the night, though:



Thanks sweetheart.

Can't say the hand was played wrong, but what I want to see is the actual chat that had you banned for a month

[tomb1]

Jeez man. Letting her play under your name is OK though maybe a little dangerous, but letting her CHAT under your name... what were you thinking?!?

[tomb1]

Back to the hand here (sorry to take this off track), but this is probably one of the rare times when I would just call the All-In.

About 98% of the time I would do exactly what you did, push over the top to keep everybody else out, but in this situation I might just call this tilter in early position with lots of big stacks behind.

Still don't know if I would fold to the later guy's push, but maybe. You know what they say... third raise is bullets.