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02-14-2006, 01:04 AM
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| | | When a Player Protects his Cards.... What Does That USUALLY Mean??
In this NL $20 buyin cash game I play at there is one dickhead who thinks he's Doyle Jr and should comment on everyone else's game and plays and what they are doing. He's always right, etc , etc.
Super tight ass, only plays good hands, not sure about his bluffing capacity, but I dont believe he has any as he always has his chips neatly stacked, counted out, he only comes to win money when everyone is is there to play. The other players are not bad but they dont care about the $20, they'll call with 2 pair when straights are out just beacuse they want to see whats out there. Its not a reckless game by any means, just a friendly one.
So Mr Tight Ass is in a hand with a couple others and right after Tighty bets, he takes his left hand and scoots his hand a little closer to himself.
Am I reading too much into this or did he have a monster? He ended up showing one 9 to the other player when everyone else folded on teh river, but there was a 10 and a Q on board so I'm pretty sure he had pocket 9's.
He's teh defintion of passive and tight.
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02-14-2006, 06:38 AM
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| | | Re: When a Player Protects his Cards.... What Does That USUALLY Mean??
strong hand. |
02-14-2006, 06:47 AM
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| | | Re: When a Player Protects his Cards.... What Does That USUALLY Mean??
Yep, strong hand. But you must eventually start seeing his cards (more than one anyway) to know for sure. No better place to bluff than when people see you as super tight. |
02-14-2006, 11:34 AM
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I always protect my cards, even if I know I'm going to fold in turn. |
02-14-2006, 11:41 AM
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| | | Re: When a Player Protects his Cards.... What Does That USUALLY Mean??
I do the same Slagar. I often cradle them a little more than usual with nothing just to see if anyone is paying attention. |
02-14-2006, 12:12 PM
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I just put them right up against my chips and place my protector (a pink AB in an Air Tite) on them. |
02-14-2006, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilTheThrill14 I do the same Slagar. I often cradle them a little more than usual with nothing just to see if anyone is paying attention. | I should add that I also then do this with a good hand as well. I am alsways trying to mix up my actions. One thing I usually don't do - because it gets me in trouble - is talk. |
02-14-2006, 12:16 PM
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i mess around with false tells sometimes too but find that spotting telegraphs in my opponents is usually more fruitful.
they'll hold chips in their hand to bet/call, or get ready to fold way in advance. it's a beautiful thing. |
02-14-2006, 12:22 PM
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We have a few guys in our game that if you start to pile some chips up for a bet, they just throw their cards away. It's a great thing. |
02-14-2006, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilTheThrill14 We have a few guys in our game that if you start to pile some chips up for a bet, they just throw their cards away. It's a great thing. | my brothers' a big fan of that move. when i see him do it, you can be sure that i'm going to bet bottom pair and watch him fold in disgust...
IMO, the problem with fake tells is the same problem as you describe with talking...smart players can figure out the patterns. it's why so many pros are stone-faces...the less signals you let off, the less there is to read.
good poker players are smart. when we try to act unpredictably, they can see through the BS and figure out what the pattern is. then they act in ways that make us uncomfortable.
so patternless is the the ideal. it's not as fun as acting unpredictably, but it's more profitable for most of us... | | |
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