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Old 02-12-2006, 01:07 PM
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Hand #11533894-16863 at Beijing ($1/$2 Limit Hold'em)
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BLyons is at seat 0 with $37.50.
JayPlay is at seat 1 with $72.50.
roccoplm is at seat 2 with $88.
yeltzen is at seat 3 with $138.25.
Four50Four is at seat 4 with $107.50.
Chip_Merlin is at seat 5 with $46.
SKULLX is at seat 6 with $77.
brightly is at seat 7 with $39.50.
racezone is at seat 8 with $52.50.
The button is at seat 1.

roccoplm posts the small blind of $.50.
yeltzen posts the big blind of $1.
yeltzen: Td Jh

Pre-flop:
Four50Four folds.
Chip_Merlin folds.
SKULLX calls.
brightly calls.
racezone folds.
BLyons calls.
JayPlay folds.
roccoplm calls.
yeltzen checks.

Flop (board: Jd 3c 2d):
roccoplm checks.
yeltzen bets $1.
SKULLX folds.
brightly calls.
BLyons folds.
roccoplm folds.

Turn (board: Jd 3c 2d 2h):

yeltzen bets $2.
brightly raises to $4.
yeltzen calls.

River (board: Jd 3c 2d 2h 3d):

yeltzen checks.
brightly bets $2.
yeltzen:


a) Calls
b) Raises
c) Folds like a pud.
d) Other
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Old 02-12-2006, 01:16 PM
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Re: OMGZ Like What Doo I Doo?

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yeltzen[/b] checks.
brightly bets $2.
yeltzen:



c) Folds like a pud.
c fold
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Re: OMGZ Like What Doo I Doo?

I would just call, if I'm reading and adding correctly, there is $17 in the pot counting brightly's bet. Raising your bet after the second 2 came would make me think brightly has a 2 in the hole. I would still call being that it's 8.5 to 1 on your money and he could be bluffing.
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Re: OMGZ Like What Doo I Doo?

I'd call too....Pot odds are too good to fold, even though I would guess you are probably beat.
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Yinzes is smart. I was just about to fold because the guy had a VP$IP of like 70% or something, so I figured it was possible he had a 2. I ruled out the 3 since a player that loose would typically call with a 3 there. Fishies love to bluff when the board pairs.

yeltzen calls.




Showdown:

brightly shows 6s As.
brightly has As 3c 2d 2h 3d: two pair, threes and deuces.
yeltzen shows Td Jh.
yeltzen has Td Jh Jd 3c 3d: two pair, jacks and threes.
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Re: OMGZ Like What Doo I Doo?

Do you have a read on brightly? I bet/fold the turn if is he's a loose passive b*stard, even though I hate bet/folding. I check/call the turn and river if he's any other kind of player. Let someone bet an Ace high, J weak kicker, or bluff. Save money if he's got a 2 or better kicker.
Here, as is, I call and regret it.
[EDIT: posted at the same time as results. Seems like brightly's not l/p.]
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Re: OMGZ Like What Doo I Doo?

bet then fold the turn when he raises

edit: 70%vpip? kind of important, eh?
call on the turn. check/call the river.
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Re: OMGZ Like What Doo I Doo?

Lately I've been making these kinds of calls more often. It seems to be working in the positive direction. You might lose the majority of them, but you usually only have to win one once in a while to more than make up for the loses.

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Re: OMGZ Like What Doo I Doo?

The more important number is aggression factor.

A 70%vpip player who is extremely passive is more likely to have some crap like 62s and you're way behind whenever they raise in this spot. Against an unknown I call down.

If you call the turn here you have to call the river.
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I think the call is the right move at the river no matter how loose the guy is. The pot odds say it is the correct thing to do.
You get players that loose at UB? I thought it was a tight site.
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