[Spaceman Spiff]

Looks like a bunch of these today. I love em!

All right, playing 2/4 limit online. I'm in the SB.

Disclaimer: Not a bad beat story, I'm just curious on thoughts as to what might be going on here.

Limper in middle position, 2 limpers in late position, I look down and see . OK, so I didn't look down, it was there the whole time, but you get the idea.

I call and BB checks. 5 way action to the flop with a $10 pot.

Flop comes down:

All right, I'm in bad position, but I caught top pair and I want the lead in this hand with that, so I bet out.

BB folds. MP calls. Both LP guys fold. Not bad. I have no idea what my caller has, but I'm thinking at worst it might some kind of Ax suited where in this case the x is a 7. That would seem to fit with his preflop call.

Turn:

I'm not worried about A7 anymore! I bet out, he raises!

Now what?

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff

Looks like a bunch of these today. I love em!

All right, playing 2/4 limit online. I'm in the SB.

Disclaimer: Not a bad beat story, I'm just curious on thoughts as to what might be going on here.

Limper in middle position, 2 limpers in late position, I look down and see . OK, so I didn't look down, it was there the whole time, but you get the idea.

I call and BB checks. 5 way action to the flop with a $10 pot.

Flop comes down:

All right, I'm in bad position, but I caught top pair and I want the lead in this hand with that, so I bet out.

BB folds. MP calls. Both LP guys fold. Not bad. I have no idea what my caller has, but I'm thinking at worst it might some kind of Ax suited where in this case the x is a 7. That would seem to fit with his preflop call.

Turn:

I'm not worried about A7 anymore! I bet out, he raises!

Now what?

raise. i expect an overpair, set, flushdraw, or straight draw. you beat them all except a set. check/call a scary river card.

[CaptLego]

what the heck --- reraise him back. What are you afraid of -- that he's got 56 or a set and waited for the turn to pump it? There's also a chance he's on a draw, has overcards, top pair, or nothing and is just testing you. I'd say re-raise and see where you stand. (Disclaimer: I obviously have no clue how to play these things, and am just making it up as I go. I just thought it would be fun to reraise the guy.)

[Johnny5]

C'mon guys, he's got 56 soooooted! Isn't it obvious!?

I'm still raising though!

[littlebu]

Reraise and hope he caps. My guess would be an overpair or Ax diamonds probably something like x=5 0r 2 giving him the flush and straight draws.

[Poboy]

I wouldn't have led the flop. I would check raise it. Ideally, it gets checked to the last position and you face everyone with two cold. You've got too vulnerable a hand to lead out.
On the turn, he raises for a free showdown enough that I'd also re-raise.
If you had c/r'ed the flop and he raised the turn, then I'd think about 6 5 or a set.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by Poboy

I wouldn't have led the flop. I would check raise it. Ideally, it gets checked to the last position and you face everyone with two cold. You've got too vulnerable a hand to lead out.
On the turn, he raises for a free showdown enough that I'd also re-raise.
If you had c/r'ed the flop and he raised the turn, then I'd think about 6 5 or a set.

i don't think you're strong enough on that flop to check raise.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

i don't think you're strong enough on that flop to check raise.

Yeah, top pair, shitty kicker. I really wouldn't mind my flop bet taking it down right there. I'm not only vulnerable to my kicker, but also half the deck coming on the turn as an overcard. If it gets checked around, I'm likely sunk. I definitely need to know where I stand by betting out.

[snuix114]

Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff

Looks like a bunch of these today. I love em!

All right, playing 2/4 limit online. I'm in the SB.

Disclaimer: Not a bad beat story, I'm just curious on thoughts as to what might be going on here.

Limper in middle position, 2 limpers in late position, I look down and see . OK, so I didn't look down, it was there the whole time, but you get the idea.

I call and BB checks. 5 way action to the flop with a $10 pot.

Flop comes down:

All right, I'm in bad position, but I caught top pair and I want the lead in this hand with that, so I bet out.

BB folds. MP calls. Both LP guys fold. Not bad. I have no idea what my caller has, but I'm thinking at worst it might some kind of Ax suited where in this case the x is a 7. That would seem to fit with his preflop call.

Turn:

I'm not worried about A7 anymore! I bet out, he raises!

Now what?

RERAISE - RERAISE SOME MORE - RERAISE SOME MORE! If the betting caps on the turn I would check call any A, diamond, or straight card. Otherwise lead out and flat call if you get raised.

EDIT: On second thought the A is not as big of a concern unless it's Ad. If he has an A it's almost certainly Ad5d.

[Poboy]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

i don't think you're strong enough on that flop to check raise.

That's the whole idea. You check raise because you are not strong. You can't protect your hand by leading out. You're not folding anyone very often. Assuming the guy who called you would've been the one to lead a bet w/a check raise, I may abandon the c/r and go with a call depending on what the two LP guys do. If the other guys drop, I'll check raise MP.

Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff

I definitely need to know where I stand by betting out.

What did you learn by betting out? I didn't get much out of it. If you check raise him and he 3 bets, now you know something. If he calls, you know he has at least TP, probably with a better kicker.

Instead, look what you did to yourself on the turn. You improved, but still don't know what he has. If he doesn't have a straight, check raising him on the flop gives him the hard decision here.