[jojobinks]

okay. i made a pretty big PF raise, and he called. then he called the flop bet with that semi-scary board. what's the plan for the turn?

Saw Flop | Saw Turn | Saw River | Saw Showdown | Won

POKERSTARS GAME #3636975515: TOURNAMENT #18057366, HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL I (10/20) - 2006/01/14 - 18:05:33 (ET)
Table '18057366 1' Seat #9 is the button

userid001 - t1720
X-WAVE - t1190
Jeff Rambo - t1470
jojobinks - t3060
Th3Birdman - t1540
Ignite_AA - t2840
pontiac37 - t290
T0ront0Night Button - t1390

PREFLOP undefined
jojobinks is UTG+1 with J J
1 fold, jojobinks raises t100 to t120, Th3Birdman calls t120, 3 folds, userid001 calls t110, 1 fold.

FLOP t380 (3 players)
6 6 2
userid001 checks, jojobinks bets t300, Th3Birdman calls t300, 1 fold.

help, CT gurus, help!

[jojobinks]

more info that i just thought of including...
i'd seen this guy 2 times before. he plays 27% of his hands, and is pretty passive. he becomes slightly more agg later in the hand. i've seen him showdown medium strength hands in the past, but nothing ridiculously weak.

also, this is a $11 on P*

[Fins]

I 1/2 pot it at the turn and get ready to start over... it's level one... just pretend you didn't just double up If you don't just made him possibly a cheap flush draw but who knows the $11's are just too rich for my blood

Your silver lining is it's him & not igniteAA... that's the kind of luck I have to look for on PS

[Brent]

What fell on the turn?

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by brentobox

What fell on the turn?

all in time, young man. what's your play if a J falls? if an A comes? another spade ? a blank?

[Fins]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

all in time, young man. what's your play if a J falls? if an A comes? another spade ? a blank?

My first reaction...
A, K, J, spade - 1/3 pot
blank - 1/2+ pot

[mizuchaud]

feels like he has a higher pair than jj.
A drops I'm out. Blank drops I'm out if he bets after I check. J drops I'm all in.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by Fins

My first reaction...
A, K, J, spade - 1/3 pot
blank - 1/2+ pot

I tend to agree with Fins here. I assume you are folding to a reraise in the A, K or spade scenario? What about after you bet 1/2+ pot on a blank? I assume you're calling his remaining chips...

Originally Posted by mizuchaud

feels like he has a higher pair than jj.

While this is probably the case considering we know jojo's taking a beat here (judging by the title of the post!)...would you honestly have made that same play in the moment? You would check a blank? You instantly push when a J falls on the turn?

[jojobinks]

my plan...1/2 pot anything. there're so many ways this board is scary that a bet of 500 is going to be an effective bluff no matter which scarecard comes off. i've 3k in chips early on. the worst that can happen to me is that i'm down to 1500 at the end of the hand, which is where i am at this point in the tourny 90% of the time anyhow. the upside is that i could end the hand at 4500, which essentially ensures me a cash finish and makes a first MUCH more likely.

i guess a bet of 500 takes down the pot better than 1/2 the time on a random turn card.

here comes. ready?

TURN t980 (2 players)
6 6 2 A
jojobinks bets t500, Th3Birdman calls t500.

eeks! what's the plan for the river? if we bet, how much? do we call if we check and he pushes? how much do we call if he value bets? which river cards change your plan?

[TommyW]

Be persistent, bet again. If he calls, probably on a flush draw, or he thinks you have nothing, trying to steal the pot.