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10-12-2005, 07:52 PM
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Chips: 7,798 | | | Analysis: JJ on 1/2NL 6-Max Table No hand history as this was on Noble.
Hero and villain both start off with ~210. Villain is new to the table, in the CO and Hero is on the BUTTON.
Folded to the CO who open raises to 9. Hero calls with J  J  . Both blinds fold, 21 in the pot.
Flop: T  8  7
CO leads out for 9. Hero re-raises to 24. CO re-raises to 51. Pot is 96 and it's 27 to call. What's the play?
And would your play be any different if the flop was T  7  6  ?
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10-12-2005, 08:03 PM
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Chips: 7,134 | | | Re: Analysis: JJ on 1/2NL 6-Max Table Well, I woulda re-raised preflop since he's new to the table and you have no idea what a raise from him means.
Besides that, it sure seems like he's only reraising enough to keep you in on that flop... he raised only about double. That would make me scared of a set. But, again, you don't really know how he plays, so how can you know? J9 is a pretty marginal raising hand even for a loose cannon, but possible; 96 is pretty hard to believe. It'd take a lot of balls to bet-reraise here with A10s. Everything is adding up to a set or an overpair bigger than Jacks. But, I typically play like a puss and this is a typical puss move. Still, this is a hard call to make for me, but the odds are nice...
This is one of those hands that always ends up going like this... "well, he raised in the CO so he was probably stealing and has like A9 or something and now has a draw, I'll put him all in..." then he calls and shows you TT. | 
10-12-2005, 08:04 PM
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Chips: 6,502 | | | Re: Analysis: JJ on 1/2NL 6-Max Table Call. With an overpair, a gutshot, and better than 3:1 pot odds I am going to see the turn.
Depending on what comes on the turn, and what the villian does I have already accepted the possibility the villian might have an overpair but I am not yet convinced I am beaten.
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10-12-2005, 09:12 PM
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10-12-2005, 11:00 PM
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10-13-2005, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey No hand history as this was on Noble.
Hero and villain both start off with ~210. Villain is new to the table, in the CO and Hero is in the BB.
Folded to the CO who open raises to 9. Hero calls with J  J  . Both blinds fold, 21 in the pot.
Flop: T  8  7
CO leads out for 9. Hero re-raises to 24. CO re-raises to 51. Pot is 96 and it's 27 to call. What's the play?
And would your play be any different if the flop was T  7  6  ? | Need some clarification, which is critical to this hand: You say "Hero is in the BB," then you say "Both blinds fold" when "CO open raises to 9." Something ain't right here -- what is Hero's correct position?
If Hero is the BB, then Hero had to check on the flop to allow CO/Villain to act first, and then Hero check-raised, and then Villain raised again after the check-raise, in which case Villain is showing tremendous strength.
OR
If Hero is not BB, and CO acted first, then Hero has to be the Button. This would mean that CO did not re-raise after being check-raised, which makes a huge difference for my analysis of the hand.
Or, is this a trick question and I get the trick prize? | 
10-13-2005, 10:04 AM
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Chips: 3,046 | | | Re: Analysis: JJ on 1/2NL 6-Max Table 99 would be a hand I would look at. I think his small bet (1/3 of the pot on the flop) and subsequent reraise leads me to think his hand is not a monster. If it was why would he not simply check, rather than risk running you off with the small bet? | 
10-13-2005, 10:16 AM
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Chips: 7,134 | | | Re: Analysis: JJ on 1/2NL 6-Max Table Wow, I totally f'ed up my reply.
He didn't reraise the minimum. Ignore me and call. Not that you weren't, anyways. | 
10-13-2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeakEasy Need some clarification, which is critical to this hand: You say "Hero is in the BB," then you say "Both blinds fold" when "CO open raises to 9." Something ain't right here -- what is Hero's correct position?
Or, is this a trick question and I get the trick prize? | Whoops. Nice catch. Hero is the Button. I'll say what I did after you post your comments.
And so far no one has commented on what they would do if there wasn't the gutshot for the Hero as well. Is it still an easy call for everyone who replied? | 
10-13-2005, 07:35 PM
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Chips: 29,466 | | | Re: Analysis: JJ on 1/2NL 6-Max Table That kinds looks to me like he has a big pp. It might be stronger than that, but you're probably behind, with maybe 6 outs and 3.5:1 pot odds. That doesn't look like a very good deal to me. I fold. Too weak?
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