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08-26-2005, 10:11 PM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto
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I have a middle stack with $450+. The big stack has about $700. Re-buys allowed, and several have done so. Blinds $2 and $5. I'm in position holding  so I raise to $20 even. The blinds fold and one of the callers before me calls the raise. I don't put him on a good hand because the whole table has been raising like crazy when they have great hole cards - this guy won the last few pots and was on a roll. He was trying to see the flop. I put him with an over and under, or suited connectors.
Flop:
He bets $80. Big bet. I'm beginging to think: worse case scenario, he might be trapping me with a set of Jacks. But most likely he has AK or AQ. But I have a set and I'm not folding. I call his bet.
Turn:
He now bets $150. I'm sure he doesn't have a J or he would have checked me like he did the last time he had a set. But, that's about 1/2 my stack and he has me covered by about $25, and with a confident 8's over Jacks I re-raise him all-in. He wonders for a bit and calls.
He shows  . I've got full house and he's dead meat. Low and behold, the river is a
Should I have called his bet on the turn and see the river? If an A or J came up, and he bet big again, I probably would have folded - reluctantly. Was my all-in bet a mistake? | 
08-27-2005, 02:35 AM
|  | Big Stack | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the wonder of it all Age: 34
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Chips: 7,798 | | | You made the right read and got the money in with the best of it. No need to second guess yourself here. When I'm less tired, I'll look at the flop action again. | 
08-27-2005, 03:23 AM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, California
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Chips: 2,131 | | | With the two hearts on the board and possible straight draws, I would have re-raised his $80 flop bet, maybe like to $200 total, in order to cut down on his pot odds if he is drawing and to see where he is at if he has a made hand. Having bottom set with no other draws makes your position too precarious to slow-play this flop, IMVHO. | 
08-27-2005, 08:03 AM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicagoland Age: 33
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Chips: 1,845 | | I was going to say the same thing. I'd probably re-raise him on the flop. At that point, I'd be perfectly happy to take that pot down right there. You've got 2 hearts on board and 2 Broadway cards on board. Lots of possibilities.
That said, it sounds like you made a good read and just got sucked out on. It happens. Usually to me, but I've heard it happens to others also.  | 
08-27-2005, 09:35 AM
|  | Surfaced Warrior / Mod | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Starboard Bridge-Wing Age: 36
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08-27-2005, 09:40 AM
|  | Surfaced Warrior / Mod | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Starboard Bridge-Wing Age: 36
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Chips: 11,934 | | | Upon closer examination, I am lost here. What was his other card, an ACE? All I see on your thread for the opponent was a four of diamonds which doesnt match the board and can't touch your full house. There is no straight possibility and a flush would not be good against the boat, so the only thing he could have to beat you would be the fourth jack or an ace. Maybe my connection is not getting the other card, because all I see is the 4D.
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08-27-2005, 11:43 AM
|  | On the lookout | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta again
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Chips: 18,394 | | | He's not that smart a player, if he called your all-in on the turn. Once that happened, it was up to the cards, which came out wrong.
I woulda re-raised all-in on the flop. But maybe he'd call that, too, with the same result. | 
08-27-2005, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by R Deckard With the two hearts on the board and possible straight draws, I would have re-raised his $80 flop bet, maybe like to $200 total | Deck has got it. You've got to raise this flop -- at least $200, maybe up to $225. All kinds of flush and straight draws on that board. | 
08-27-2005, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylecoyo Upon closer examination, I am lost here. What was his other card, an ACE? | He wins -- JJJAA beats JJJ88. | 
08-27-2005, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff That said, it sounds like you made a good read and just got sucked out on. It happens. Usually to me, but I've heard it happens to others also.  | Hehe- yeah, me too. That's why I picked the sig I have...  | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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