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Old 08-26-2005, 10:11 PM
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Suck out on the River. Going All-in a Mistake?

Lost $100 buy-in at a local game, where I should have cleaned up.

I have a middle stack with $450+. The big stack has about $700. Re-buys allowed, and several have done so. Blinds $2 and $5. I'm in position holding so I raise to $20 even. The blinds fold and one of the callers before me calls the raise. I don't put him on a good hand because the whole table has been raising like crazy when they have great hole cards - this guy won the last few pots and was on a roll. He was trying to see the flop. I put him with an over and under, or suited connectors.

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He bets $80. Big bet. I'm beginging to think: worse case scenario, he might be trapping me with a set of Jacks. But most likely he has AK or AQ. But I have a set and I'm not folding. I call his bet.

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He now bets $150. I'm sure he doesn't have a J or he would have checked me like he did the last time he had a set. But, that's about 1/2 my stack and he has me covered by about $25, and with a confident 8's over Jacks I re-raise him all-in. He wonders for a bit and calls.

He shows . I've got full house and he's dead meat. Low and behold, the river is a

Should I have called his bet on the turn and see the river? If an A or J came up, and he bet big again, I probably would have folded - reluctantly. Was my all-in bet a mistake?
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Old 08-27-2005, 02:35 AM
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You made the right read and got the money in with the best of it. No need to second guess yourself here. When I'm less tired, I'll look at the flop action again.
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Old 08-27-2005, 03:23 AM
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With the two hearts on the board and possible straight draws, I would have re-raised his $80 flop bet, maybe like to $200 total, in order to cut down on his pot odds if he is drawing and to see where he is at if he has a made hand. Having bottom set with no other draws makes your position too precarious to slow-play this flop, IMVHO.
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I was going to say the same thing. I'd probably re-raise him on the flop. At that point, I'd be perfectly happy to take that pot down right there. You've got 2 hearts on board and 2 Broadway cards on board. Lots of possibilities.

That said, it sounds like you made a good read and just got sucked out on. It happens. Usually to me, but I've heard it happens to others also.
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I think you did the right thing, bad beats just happen from time to time.
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Upon closer examination, I am lost here. What was his other card, an ACE? All I see on your thread for the opponent was a four of diamonds which doesnt match the board and can't touch your full house. There is no straight possibility and a flush would not be good against the boat, so the only thing he could have to beat you would be the fourth jack or an ace. Maybe my connection is not getting the other card, because all I see is the 4D.
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He's not that smart a player, if he called your all-in on the turn. Once that happened, it was up to the cards, which came out wrong.

I woulda re-raised all-in on the flop. But maybe he'd call that, too, with the same result.
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With the two hearts on the board and possible straight draws, I would have re-raised his $80 flop bet, maybe like to $200 total
Deck has got it. You've got to raise this flop -- at least $200, maybe up to $225. All kinds of flush and straight draws on that board.
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Upon closer examination, I am lost here. What was his other card, an ACE?
He wins -- JJJAA beats JJJ88.
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That said, it sounds like you made a good read and just got sucked out on. It happens. Usually to me, but I've heard it happens to others also.
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