Metagame reads in homegame. Why history with villain is so important in decisions.

Duckbutter48 · Tweet this Post! #1 04-11-2011, 10:01 AM

Played $1/$2 the other night. Mostly regs with one new guy. He sat directly to my right and I have never played with him before. I forget his name so we will call him angry Joe--or AJ for short.

1st hand of the night..folds to him in c/o($100) and he limps. I($200) bet to $12 with AKo. Flop is 789rbw --he open shoves. I've seen many folks shove a draw here and with his limp a 10 was very much in his range. I would think if he had 77 88 99 he would have raised in c/o, so I wasnt really scared of trips although like I said 1st hand with guy so who knows but IMO no one in their right mind shoves a made straight here with out a FD on the board. So I think for a moment and call.
He turns over Q10 and missed his open ender. He b1tched for about 20minutes that I called him and I didn't say very much back to him.

About an hour later, AJ($150) in c/o limps again and I($450) raise to $12 with KJo. Flop is 37Qrbw, he checks and I bet $20..he takes a few moments and calls. turn is a 9s putting two s on the board. I fire $50...he calls. Now Im pretty sure he has the Q or maybe FD and I need to bingo the K or shove a non-As on the river. If an under shows I will prob just fold behind his river bet. River is an Ah and I shove. He only has 70ish left but I still thought it was enough to get a fold since I raised PF and had shown big A's alot in previous hands. He tanks then calls...he had 66. I didn't say a word but figured he thought I was fuming. My read was he was weak the whole hand but figured he had to at least have Qx and he called my turn bet. I was a bit perplexed since if he had Q on flop he didnt raise or bet out on turn. So what I thought he must have didn't really add up in my mind to his betting and after seeing 66 I realized why.

3 hands later. Im UTG($300) look down and see AA. I kinda hate playing AA/KK UTG. I always tell myself to get tricky and limp but instead I always raise and hope for the best. I just dont want to tank AA and think..you shoulda raised PF dummy. So I raise to $8 and hope for the best. It folds around to AJ($300) in the BB and he mentions how he likes to defend so he calls. I really cannot range him figuring the 1st hand of the night had him playing at me a bit different then most players and the pocket 6 hand kinda confirmed it to me. Flop was Js2h6h. He bets $30 which thru me off a bit. So I thought for a second and since I had the Ah figured he wasnt on a Fd and must have had a weak J and was trying to scare me off. Most cases I might just flat here but from previous hands with dude I think looking mad and shoving may look the weakest...so I shove. He says I figured you would think I was just bluffing and calls with J8o. I told him that I was praying he wasnt and the AA held up. He gets up and says nothing and leaves.

Just wanted to discuss how ABC playing if fine with a lot of folks but you really have to be villain specific with a lot of hands. 99% of the time there is now way I shove AA in a pot like that but sometimes with reads it just makes sense.

jbutler16 · Tweet this Post! #2 04-11-2011, 10:18 AM

don't mean to troll up your thread with my terminology nittiness, but if you raise PF after a limper it isn't a 3-bet; it's just a raise.

Duckbutter48 · Tweet this Post! #3 04-11-2011, 10:28 AM

yea, all that typing wore me out. I took the 3 out of the post...Hope that helps ya

jbutler16 · Tweet this Post! #4 04-11-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Duckbutter48

yea, all that typing wore me out. I took the 3 out of the post...Hope that helps ya

yeah i definitely trolled that up - sorry

JM · Tweet this Post! #5 04-11-2011, 11:40 AM

I'm a bit confused about the second hand, did he check every street? He's on your right but it sounded like you acted first in that hand.

Duckbutter48 · Tweet this Post! #6 04-11-2011, 11:57 AM

Yea, he checked each street.

guinness · Tweet this Post! #7 04-11-2011, 03:50 PM

I would have caught the 8. 5th level Metacatching. Chapter 4.

Duckbutter48 · Tweet this Post! #8 04-11-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by guinness

I would have caught the 8. 5th level Metacatching. Chapter 4.

Yea but since your different villain I would have just flatted your flop bet and checked behind on turn and then folded when you tried to take me down value street on the river.

Thats Chapter 5.

joepro · Tweet this Post! #9 04-11-2011, 06:16 PM

I've been thinking lately that I need to be in hands when there is a very weak player at the table. I have seriously changed my game in these instances, and I will open up my range quite a bit. A lot of weak players are overbluffers or calling stations, and you can isolate them or at least get three handed if you aggressively play this way. Sorry if this is a dumb post, but I am mostly a limit player and no limit cash games were never my favorite. I only play now because limit games are so hard to find at a higher level. So I play 1-2, but usually pretty deep. To me, scared money is about the worst thing you can play with in any poker game.

Duckbutter48 · Tweet this Post! #10 04-11-2011, 07:53 PM

Im with ya Joe. I started out as tight was right and still play very nitty early but when fish is deep and IM in position I come along with a ton of hands.

I 3-bet scared money the other night when scared money was in mid-position and 3x raised. I had 23o..Sound retarded but the man check/folds most flops so you just bet flop and take it down 75% of the time. Almost every other player at table I happily fold 23o but iso-ing/c-beting scared money is def. +ev.