[jamby]

Was running pretty well in 12th place with 27 players to go in a 90 player $3 knockout tourney at FTP. The following were my final two hands, which just happened to be the hand prior to the first break and the first hand after said break.

Comments as to how I could have escaped my fate with these hands would be appreciated. I'll not whine. I'm zender @ FTP.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6537316696: $3 + $0.30 KO Sit & Go (49688349), Table 9 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:30:43 ET - 2008/05/23
Seat 1: scarbelli (8,846)
Seat 2: Kabema (15,610)
Seat 3: zender (13,101)
Seat 4: rottencash (12,179)
Seat 5: topshelf328 (13,913)
Seat 6: hingsbee (5,705)
Seat 7: MrDewey111 (4,875)
Seat 8: phatboarder23 (9,597)
Seat 9: badgers1fan (13,565)
scarbelli antes 50
Kabema antes 50
zender antes 50
rottencash antes 50
topshelf328 antes 50
hingsbee antes 50
MrDewey111 antes 50
phatboarder23 antes 50
badgers1fan antes 50
phatboarder23 posts the small blind of 200
badgers1fan posts the big blind of 400
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zender [Kh Kc]
scarbelli folds
Kabema folds
zender has 15 seconds left to act
zender raises to 1,300
rottencash folds
topshelf328 folds
hingsbee has 15 seconds left to act
hingsbee folds
MrDewey111 calls 1,300
phatboarder23 folds
badgers1fan folds
*** FLOP *** [6c Qh Jd]
zender bets 3,525
MrDewey111 calls 3,525, and is all in
zender shows [Kh Kc]
MrDewey111 shows [Jh Ah]
*** TURN *** [6c Qh Jd] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [6c Qh Jd 4d] [Js]
zender shows two pair, Kings and Jacks
MrDewey111 shows three of a kind, Jacks
MrDewey111 wins the pot (10,700) with three of a kind, Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10,700 | Rake 0
Board: [6c Qh Jd 4d Js]
Seat 1: scarbelli folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Kabema folded before the Flop
Seat 3: zender showed [Kh Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 4: rottencash folded before the Flop
Seat 5: topshelf328 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: hingsbee folded before the Flop
Seat 7: MrDewey111 (button) showed [Jh Ah] and won (10,700) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 8: phatboarder23 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: badgers1fan (big blind) folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #6537384963: $3 + $0.30 KO Sit & Go (49688349), Table 9 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:36:38 ET - 2008/05/23
Seat 1: scarbelli (8,796)
Seat 2: Kabema (15,560)
Seat 3: zender (8,226)
Seat 4: rottencash (12,129)
Seat 5: topshelf328 (13,863)
Seat 6: hingsbee (5,655)
Seat 7: MrDewey111 (10,700)
Seat 8: phatboarder23 (9,347)
Seat 9: badgers1fan (13,115)
scarbelli antes 50
Kabema antes 50
zender antes 50
rottencash antes 50
topshelf328 antes 50
hingsbee antes 50
MrDewey111 antes 50
phatboarder23 antes 50
badgers1fan antes 50
badgers1fan posts the small blind of 250
scarbelli posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zender [Qh Qd]
Kabema has 15 seconds left to act
Kabema raises to 1,500
zender has 15 seconds left to act
zender calls 1,500
rottencash folds
topshelf328 folds
hingsbee folds
MrDewey111 folds
phatboarder23 folds
badgers1fan has 15 seconds left to act
badgers1fan raises to 5,000
scarbelli folds
Kabema calls 3,500
zender raises to 8,176, and is all in
badgers1fan calls 3,176
Kabema calls 3,176
*** FLOP *** [2h 7d 4c]
badgers1fan checks
Kabema bets 7,334, and is all in
badgers1fan calls 4,889, and is all in
Kabema shows [Jd Js]
zender shows [Qh Qd]
badgers1fan shows [Kd As]
Uncalled bet of 2,445 returned to Kabema
*** TURN *** [2h 7d 4c] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [2h 7d 4c Kh] [3s]
Kabema shows a pair of Jacks
badgers1fan shows a pair of Kings
badgers1fan wins the side pot (9,770 ) with a pair of Kings
zender shows a pair of Queens
badgers1fan wins the main pot (25,470 ) with a pair of Kings
zender stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 35,256 Main pot 25,478. Side pot 9,778. | Rake 0
Board: [2h 7d 4c Kh 3s]
Seat 1: scarbelli (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Kabema showed [Jd Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: zender showed [Qh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: rottencash folded before the Flop
Seat 5: topshelf328 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: hingsbee folded before the Flop
Seat 7: MrDewey111 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: phatboarder23 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: badgers1fan (small blind) showed [Kd As] and won (35,256) with a pair of Kings

[Aces_Over]

IMHO on both hands, you played probably as well as you could have. I know how those runs feel. I was snapped by pocket Aces to pocket Kings on two nights in a row. What can you do unless you have an abosolute read on hands like that? I would just take them as a bad run on GOOD cards. LOL. As we all know... it is bound to happen one too many times than we would like. Good luck next time. Take it ALL!

[geewhiz41]

I think you played the first hand perfectly. Your opponent has already invested 25% of his stack into the pot. He's going with it if he hits anything within smelling distance of the flop. He's got 5 outs twice, about 20%. It's just a bad beat.

The second one is a little tougher. Your stack is obviously much smaller now, and you are dealing with two opponents who can bust you. There are two possible things I can think of that you could have done differently... first, you could have moved in immediately after the first guy open raises. Second, you could have folded when you saw that subsequent re-raise and call behind you.

If you shove, it's hard to say if you could have gotten either one of the others to fold. They both might have called and the result may very well have been the same.

But you called and then there was a re-raise and a call. The sequence as it comes back to you has been raise, call, re-raise, call, which suggests some big hands are in play. I might be the pre-flop favorite against either one of them separately, but against both of them, I'd be concerned my Queens were a dog. At this point, there is too much in the pot and your remaining stack is just too small to move either one of them off the hand. You're just kind of hosed here.

[Irish Se7en]

The first hand I'm surprised that Dewey just didn't push all in preflop. The way he played that hand, he should have just pushed preflop. You played the hand well, you just got outdrawn.

On the second hand if you pushed preflop, I honestly believe badgers1fan is doing the same. Personally, I would have pushed preflop but I don't believe it would have changed the outcome.

[JoseRijo]

So standard. Nice hand on both (but you already knew that).

[jamby]

I've gone over it and think that shoving PF on the 2nd hand probably wouldn't have changed the outcome and that both were destined to be AI too. I think that it's more or less as you say - I'm kind of hosed there.

Originally Posted by geewhiz41

The second one ...If you shove, it's hard to say if you could have gotten either one of the others to fold. They both might have called and the result may very well have been the same ... You're just kind of hosed here.

[geewhiz41]

Originally Posted by jamby

I've gone over it and think that shoving PF on the 2nd hand probably wouldn't have changed the outcome and that both were destined to be AI too. I think that it's more or less as you say - I'm kind of hosed there.

I think, in all likelihood, you're right, no one is folding, and the result will be the same.

I tossed out the notion of folding when the action comes back to you, but that's really a pretty unattractive option also, and I don't think that was a viable play.

Every so often in poker, there is simply a hand where you are going to go down, and there is nothing you can do about it. Any player in the world would have lost their stack there. I wouldn't spend a moment thinking about it.