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Old 05-15-2008, 09:12 AM
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Wired Tens at the Wynn.

Pocket Ts at the 1-3 at the Wynn. I've been raising a lot from position and I'm in the cut-off with ~ $280.

I've been playing a lot of hands and most of them by raising unopened pots. The button has $360 and is definitely onto my little game. He's seen me rob this table blind and I can tell he's getting frustrated by the way hes been mucking his cards. Hes not agro or saying anything to me, but I know hes picked me off.

One of the habits I have is to watch a few players behind me and this rare time the button checked his hole cards before me and I see him grab a chip as if he is going to call.

I make it $12 like every other raise I've made. The button immediately jams to $30. Sensing a little baloney I call.

Flop KJ9 with two clubs

I Check, He insta-shoves.

It's important to note that I'm getting the feeling of personal aggression here. I feel in my bones he is challenging me.

I go into the tank and teeter on folding because it's just so dang expensive. I don't feel I'm beat, I just feel pressure.

Finally I decide to call.

He looks at me and sighs out a whispy... "good call". He shows A3 of clubs.

The turn is a Q that gives me a straight and the river is a Q of clubs!

He says to me... "I was just trying to slow you down."

He ended up giving me some respect for the rest of our time at the Wynn and we had a couple of laughs. I ran into him again at Caesars and took a seat to his immediate left.
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Re: Wired Tens at the Wynn.

You made a good call but its still real close to a flip. I would have been worried about that board if I had his hole cards. Where have you had the most success in Vegas Jayson? I am going for the first time soon.
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Re: Wired Tens at the Wynn.

I think I would have folded on the flop but WTF do I know
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Re: Wired Tens at the Wynn.

you call about $260 more for a pot of like $50 with 2 overcards and a possible straight on the flop?
Maybe I play monstly online for pennys, but I would never call there.

Afterwards it turned out to be a great call, congrats for that.
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Re: Wired Tens at the Wynn.

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You made a good call but its still real close to a flip. I would have been worried about that board if I had his hole cards. Where have you had the most success in Vegas Jayson? I am going for the first time soon.
Tough question to answer. My success is usually dependent on my play.

I'll just tell you where I've done my best.

Tropicana - Late night sessions but the place is going downhill quickly.
Venetian - By far my most favorite place to play.
Flamingo - Sit back and wait.
Wynn - Seems to be doing OK for me, but its always been a grind.
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Re: Wired Tens at the Wynn.

This is not a call I make very often. It's the rare moment when I get to pick someone off for a big hand. Thats why its in Poker Stories and Bad Beats.
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This is not a call I make very often. It's the rare moment when I get to pick someone off for a big hand. Thats why its in Poker Stories and Bad Beats.
Hey, I play NL10 and $5 Sngs online, I would never ever try to critize or judge somebodies play what I would concider a pretty high game.
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Re: Wired Tens at the Wynn.

eh, the problem is that you don't beat much.

let's say he reraises any pair / any broadway hand, and shoves the flop with any piece of it (so that knocks out smaller pairs). then...

Board: Ks Js 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 64.080% 62.33% 01.75% 499857 13999.50 { 77+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 35.920% 34.17% 01.75% 274044 13999.50 { TT }

if we include ALL pairs, then it's about EV neutral with 60 dead in the pot:
Board: Ks Js 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.047% 52.55% 01.50% 515022 14697.00 { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 45.953% 44.45% 01.50% 435684 14697.00 { TT }

if we think he made this play with any ace, any pair any broadway, then wooooo!
Board: Ks Js 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.177% 37.32% 00.86% 640668 14697.00 { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 61.823% 60.97% 00.86% 1046598 14697.00 { TT }
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Re: Wired Tens at the Wynn.

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eh, the problem is that you don't beat much.
Yeah thats the problem. I can really only beat a bluff or a draw.

I honestly didn't see his draw when I called either.

Thanks for running the numbers.
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Re: Wired Tens at the Wynn.

Well, you're instincts and senses served you well...and that's worth quite a bit in my book. Sounds like you took the beat pretty well, though.
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