[Bullet]

for first, it was a no limit cash game
blinds 5 / 10

deal

i had big blind and hold Ks 4s
3 of 8 players limped the flop
i check

flop

Kc 3s 9h
small blind check
i made a bet 25$
the 2 guys in late position fold
small blind call

turn
Kc
small blind check
i bet 50$
small blind raise 80$
i pushed all in with 485$
he called

he showed me 33
i showed my three of a kind

river

7s


damn i knew i should lay down but i cant lay down trhee kings

he was a losse agressive player who was trying to bluff often

how would you play this hand?

sorry for my english im from switzerland

[WolfPack]

am I missing something here?

you had a boat KKK44

he had a boat 333kk

you win,

but I wonder how there are 2 Kc and 2 4s in the deck

[JHickle]

Did I miss something.....

Doesn't your Kings full of 3s beat his 3 full of Ks??

Sorry Wolf....we are on the same page and posting at same time.

[TheMightyJim2k]

I think he's asking about how he played the turn. He was behind on the turn with trip Ks to fullboat, but caught a 7 outer on the river to win the pot.

The flop bet is pretty bad. If you get called you are in a world of trouble, and you have a pretty weak hand considering how bad your kicker is. Check the flop and see what opponents do. If you have reads you can c/r a late position steal, or likely fold to a bet by a solid player. This is not a hand you want to put a lot of action in with since if you get played with at all you are probably way behind.

So the flop bet probably should have been a check. And then of course you think you have a really big hand with the K comes on the turn, but if the player is question is solid you are probably still behind his range. I would likely just check the turn since a bet is only going to fold out all of the hands I am ahead of (pkt pairs and 9s) and get me raised when I am behind (boat with pkt 9s 3s or a better K).

I think you overplayed the hand on the turn. His most likely hand is a K with a better kicker. I would have slowed down to his turn c/r and likely either gotten to SD as cheap as possible, or if this guy was a really tight solid player I would seriously consider mucking. so I think a check and call a reasonable bet is in order on the turn.

Obviously if you hadn't gotten all-in before the river you can get it in then since you have a boat.

against a lot of players you would be trying to hit a 3 outer on the river or have 4 outs to chop if they are playing the better K, and most good players aren't going to be bluffing this turn.

cliff notes: don't bet the flop and see what your opponents do. You can make a case for c/r'ing stealers on the flop or just folding if a solid player leads at the pot and it gets back to you for a decent amount. As played probably check-call a small bet on the turn or fold to a large bet. If you make it to the river you can get it in once you hit the boat.

[Bullet]

awwww i made a mistake in the first post, one second ill chance it

[jdunford]

I had a similar hand today, except I held A6o from SB. Button had limped and big blind checked. Flop was 7-6-2; I bet half the pot; both called. Turn was another 6. I checked, BB bet, button raised, I pushed, button called and showed me 22 - deuces-full-of-sixes, which held up to win.

There wasn't much I could do. I hoped one of them had K6 or Q6, and the only hand I was really afraid of was 76s or similar. It's hard to see a flopped set -> turned boat coming when you turn trips. Those are the hands you're bound to get felted on. In your case, a better K had you beat (the only K you were beating was K2), so I might've slowed down when he raised my $50 bet and just called. Then I would've happily taken his stack on the river. By comparison, if you'd held AK (and didn't raise sufficiently pre-flop to push him out), you'd be screwed no matter what you did...

*EDIT* Given you didn't actually make a better boat on the river...

Having just called his raise on the turn (rather than pushing), he'd know you have some strength (probably a K), and he'd be unlikely to bet into you again with a K2 or worse... so if he bets, you know you're beaten.

[Bullet]

i just pushed cuz he was bluffing all the time before
wrong read

[jdunford]

Originally Posted by Bullet

i just pushed cuz he was bluffing all the time before
wrong read

I don't understand why you'd push if you think he's bluffing. If you're right, he folds and you get your chips back. If you're wrong, he takes all your chips. Just because he's loose doesn't mean he couldn't have any K (other than K2), or in this case, a flopped set that turned into a boat.

If you think he's bluffing, call, and check-raise him on the river. Or check-raise him on the turn, for that matter (and if he sticks around, value-bet the river). No need to put all your chips on the line when so many possible hands are beating you.

[Bullet]

i have many to learn i know

[_GUN_]

you had three kings with a horrible kicker, you can't beat anything, you can only hope to tie a hand like your own. I would've hesitated and thought about all the hands that would check-call the flop and check-raise the turn.

33, 99, K9, K3, KT, KJ, KQ are all hands that could beat you. like you said, though, you were playing the man and his tendencies, more than his possible holdings. you could've just called and if he bets the river, you could feel better about a fold. his reraise on the turn should've slowed you down, because there are so many hands you can't beat. it's hard to play against very loose and aggressive players sometimes, but they make hands, too, and you can't get too carried away with your own holdings.