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Old 06-11-2007, 05:53 PM
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Stab me in the eye with a pickaxe

So the theory is win big pots with small cards, small pots with big cards, right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($39.55)
UTG ($24.20)
MP ($25)
CO ($70.40)
Hero ($23.95)
SB ($45.15)
Preflop: Hero is Button with T, Q.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($1.25) 9, J, 3 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, CO calls $2.
Turn: ($7.25) 4 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $7, CO calls $7.
River: ($21.25) Q (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $13.7 (All-In), CO calls $13.70.
Final Pot: $48.65
Results in white below:
CO has 8c Tc (straight, queen high).
Hero has Th Qh (one pair, queens).
Outcome: CO wins $48.65.


Five minutes later...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($24.35)
MP ($24.75)
Button ($94.55)
Hero ($26.45)
BB ($25)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 6.
2 folds, Button raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50.
Flop: ($2.25) 2, 5, 4 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB calls $1.50, Button folds.
Turn: ($5.25) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.
River: ($11.25) 5 (2 players)
BB raises to $19.75, Hero calls $12.75.
Final Pot: $43.75
Results in white below:
BB has 2s 2h (full house, twos full of fives).
Hero has 7d 6d (straight flush, eight high).
Outcome: Hero wins $43.75.
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Re: Stab me in the eye with a pickaxe

I'm not a no-limit master or anything, but why not just check behind on the first hand?
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Second hand is wrong, you don't have a straight flush...musta been a 4d, hey, that's pokah.
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Re: Stab me in the eye with a pickaxe

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I'm not a no-limit master or anything, but why not just check behind on the first hand?
It was based on my read of the player from his previous hands.


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Second hand is wrong, you don't have a straight flush...musta been a 4d, hey, that's pokah.
I know I don't have a straight flush (i just realized that it says I do - the hand converter must have done that b/c the HH int PT doesn't say that).

I jsut thought both of these hands were amazing examples of being "rivered" (it would have been if I had have won them as well). Both are examples where we each had a good number of outs and no matter who won it would feel like a very bad beat.
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Oh....I was going to say, you made your money back...guess not.
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Oh....I was going to say, you made your money back...guess not.
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Re: Stab me in the eye with a pickaxe

I'm trying to figure out which hand was the bad beat?


If you want some bad beats, I'll post a couple from last night.

One would be don't limp on the button with Kings, Reraise with A/Q preflop on loose table, don't over play A/K (not bad beat just a bad play post flop). I was down $30 and then hit some hands to be a +$4 for the night. 2 hours for $4, I feel my donkey ears getting longer.


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I'm trying to figure out which hand was the bad beat?
Run each of them through Pokerstove. It's fun!
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Re: Stab me in the eye with a pickaxe

In the 2nd hand he wasn't getting proper pot odds, but he did have 10 outs and hitting a well disguised boat can (obviously) pay off. But it seems to me that in the first hand you built a big pot with nothing more than a Q-hi OESD.
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In the 2nd hand he wasn't getting proper pot odds, but he did have 10 outs and hitting a well disguised boat can (obviously) pay off. But it seems to me that in the first hand you built a big pot with nothing more than a Q-hi OESD.
First hand - Flop had Q high OESD, turn also gave me a flush draw. The villain had been playing EVERYTHING and dumping money into pots on calls like this, then folding to 82% of river raises. Again, run it through Pokerstove. This is a classic example of two things: the hero donkfesting and the villain getting the lucky end of probability.
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