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06-08-2007, 11:32 AM
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Chips: 530 | | | Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? PokerStars Game #10332725916: Tournament #52355528, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/06/08 - 12:26:31 (ET)
Table '52355528 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: OMENDI (1990 in chips)
Seat 3: milu75 (1485 in chips)
Seat 4: monkeyman551 (425 in chips)
Seat 5: darknes87 (1760 in chips)
Seat 6: mistre155 (4515 in chips)
Seat 7: BrettButter (3425 in chips)
Seat 8: theduck00 (325 in chips)
Seat 9: Don59 (1615 in chips)
OMENDI: posts the ante 25
milu75: posts the ante 25
monkeyman551: posts the ante 25
darknes87: posts the ante 25
mistre155: posts the ante 25
BrettButter: posts the ante 25
theduck00: posts the ante 25
Don59: posts the ante 25
BrettButter: posts small blind 100
theduck00: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BrettButter [As Kd]
Don59: folds
OMENDI: calls 200
milu75: calls 200
monkeyman551: raises 200 to 400 and is all-in
darknes87: folds
mistre155: calls 400
Action is on me. There's two all-ins, so it's not really an isolate.. (I am assuming theduck00 is putting his last 125 chips in here, not much fold equity)
I have reason to believe the limpers will fold (they have before..)
I am trying not to underthink any one decision I make, but in my head it clicks as an easy push. I'd love to hear what others think though. If I push, I'm not getting any extra chips if they fold around, and I'm up against two hands with AKo. If I limp, there's going to be two extra people in the pot, and there may even be a push behind me. | 
06-08-2007, 11:39 AM
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Chips: 5,913 | | | Re: Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? I think this is precisely an iso play. You are shoving to push out the other medium to big stacks so you can isolate the small guys when you most like have an equity edge against them along with dead money in the pot.
I shove to get in a three way with the shortys. | 
06-08-2007, 11:42 AM
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Chips: 543 | | | Re: Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? insta presto pusho. I don't really want the other medium stacks in there with all that dead money.
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06-08-2007, 11:44 AM
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Chips: 123 | | | Re: Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMightyJim2k I think this is precisely an iso play. You are shoving to push out the other medium to big stacks so you can isolate the small guys when you most like have an equity edge against them along with dead money in the pot.
I shove to get in a three way with the shortys. | I agree with MJ2K here... I dont see you laying this down for the small amout to call time to push here. | 
06-08-2007, 11:52 AM
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Chips: 530 | | | Re: Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? Quote:
Originally Posted by ACE'S FULL I agree with MJ2K here... I dont see you laying this down for the small amout to call time to push here. | Oh, I have no intention of folding..
But, with two players behind me who limped, they might also push because they're a bit short on chips too.
My first instinct was to push, but my instincts seem to be wrong a lot, so I figured I'd see what the fine folks here had to say about it.  | 
06-08-2007, 01:30 PM
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Chips: 530 | | | Re: Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? BrettButter: raises 3000 to 3400 and is all-in
theduck00: calls 100 and is all-in
OMENDI: folds
milu75: folds
mistre155: folds
*** FLOP *** [6h 2s 8h]
*** TURN *** [6h 2s 8h] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [6h 2s 8h Kh] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BrettButter: shows [As Kd] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
monkeyman551: shows [Ac 2c] (three of a kind, Deuces)
monkeyman551 collected 300 from side pot
theduck00: shows [Ks 4s] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
monkeyman551 collected 1800 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2100 Main pot 1800. Side pot 300. | Rake 0
Board [6h 2s 8h Kh 2h]
Seat 1: OMENDI folded before Flop
Seat 3: milu75 folded before Flop
Seat 4: monkeyman551 showed [Ac 2c] and won (2100) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 5: darknes87 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mistre155 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 7: BrettButter (small blind) showed [As Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 8: theduck00 (big blind) showed [Ks 4s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 9: Don59 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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06-08-2007, 01:33 PM
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Chips: 488 | | | Re: Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? Well, go ahead and act on the hand and let us know how it turns out for you.
(slightly worried about UTG limper though) | 
06-08-2007, 03:00 PM
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Chips: 488 | | | Re: Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? Quote:
Originally Posted by xtwalker Well, go ahead and act on the hand and let us know how it turns out for you.
(slightly worried about UTG limper though) |
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06-08-2007, 03:08 PM
|  | World Series Champ | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto Age: 29
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Chips: 2,973 | | | Re: Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebu insta presto pusho. I don't really want the other medium stacks in there with all that dead money. | Exactly. Don't over-think. Just push. You want to win the dead money, not encourage the others to play - and draw to beat you. | 
06-09-2007, 12:06 AM
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Chips: 530 | | | Re: Big blinds, two short stack all-ins, push or just call with AK? I think it's cute, whoever keeps moving these.
It's a legitimate question, with several ways to be played.
Might as well just lock them and move them to the graveyard.
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