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Old 07-28-2006, 11:02 PM
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***sick Sick Sick Sick Beat...omg***

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Fri Jul 28 18:40:00 PDT 2006
Hardest Beat EVER
Jack Mahalingam is all-in for $5,000 and is called an opponent in late position. Mahalingam shows 88 and his opponent has 55. The flop is 655 and his opponent flops quads. The turn is a 9 giving Mahalingam a gut-shot straight flush draw (his only way to win). The river is the 7 giving Mahalingam the straight flush and the hand.

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Re: ***sick Sick Sick Sick Beat...omg***

I don't mean to rain on the parade here or anything, but you do realize that it's not a bad beat, right? I mean, yeah, it looks like a horrible beat because of the way Hold'em is dealt (3, then 1, then 1), but it's not at all. The guy with the best hand when the money went in won. How he won is irrelevant, aside from everyone OOOOOOHHHHHHing and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHing.
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Re: ***sick Sick Sick Sick Beat...omg***

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I don't mean to rain on the parade here or anything, but you do realize that it's not a bad beat, right? I mean, yeah, it looks like a horrible beat because of the way Hold'em is dealt (3, then 1, then 1), but it's not at all. The guy with the best hand when the money went in won. How he won is irrelevant, aside from everyone OOOOOOHHHHHHing and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHing.
wish I could get your + rep for that..
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Re: ***sick Sick Sick Sick Beat...omg***

So I guess the worst possible bad beat is:

2 7 vs. A A

Flop A A 3

Turn 4

River 5
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Re: ***sick Sick Sick Sick Beat...omg***

like Yeltzen said, the best hand ultimately won...so it's a 'sick beat', not a 'bad beat'...

there is a .30% chance of winning with running cards for quads in the hand you described...

a worse beat would be 3/8 against AA, and the flop coming 8-9-A, the odds of an underpair hitting quads to surpass top set is .10%

the situation you mentioned is actually the fourth or fifth worse beat you could take...

I believe Doyle Brunson once got runners for a royal flush against flopped quads in a cash game. I'd have to dig it up to have more details.
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Re: ***sick Sick Sick Sick Beat...omg***

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So I guess the worst possible bad beat is:

2 7 vs. A A

Flop A A 3

Turn 4

River 5
this is also a favorite to win .10% of the time after the flop...
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Re: ***sick Sick Sick Sick Beat...omg***

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Listen, wangfaces, it doesn't matter WHAT THE HANDS LOOK LIKE DEALT OUT. All that matters is when the money went in and how many outs the underdog had.

Example 1:
Player 1 - JsTs, Player 2 - 5h5d
Player 1 goes all in preflop, player 2 calls.
Flops is 5s 5c Qs, turn is Ks, river is As.

This is NOT a bad beat. It was a coin flip when the money went in.


Example 2:
Player 1 - JsTs, Player 2 - 5h5d
Players call preflop.

Flop is 5s 5c Qs
Player 1 goes all in, Player 2 calls.

Turn is As, river is Ks.

This IS a bad beat. When the money went in, Player 1 had to hit two perfect cards.



THE END. NO MORE BAD BEAT POSTS UNLESS IT'S REALLY A BAD BEAT.
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Re: ***sick Sick Sick Sick Beat...omg***

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Listen, wangfaces, it doesn't matter WHAT THE HANDS LOOK LIKE DEALT OUT. All that matters is when the money went in and how many outs the underdog had.

Example 1:
Player 1 - JsTs, Player 2 - 5h5d
Player 1 goes all in preflop, player 2 calls.
Flops is 5s 5c Qs, turn is Ks, river is As.

This is NOT a bad beat. It was a coin flip when the money went in.


Example 2:
Player 1 - JsTs, Player 2 - 5h5d
Players call preflop.

Flop is 5s 5c Qs
Player 1 goes all in, Player 2 calls.

Turn is As, river is Ks.

This IS a bad beat. When the money went in, Player 1 had to hit two perfect cards.



THE END. NO MORE BAD BEAT POSTS UNLESS IT'S REALLY A BAD BEAT.
you must be chokin on some pole because it says SICk beat not bad beat...

after the flop 88 is less than %1 to win....and get to almost 3% on the turn...SICK BEAT...
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you must be chokin on some pole because it says SICk beat not bad beat...

after the flop 88 is less than %1 to win....and get to almost 3% on the turn...SICK BEAT...
Right. What exactly is the definition of a "SICK" beat? "When the process of dealing a card game produces a really dramatic situation that would be completely undramatic otherwise."
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Re: ***sick Sick Sick Sick Beat...omg***

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So I guess the worst possible bad beat is:

2 7 vs. A A

Flop A A 3

Turn 4

River 5
Am I missing something or is this a small straight flush (good in yahtzee) vs quad As. I guess you meant to have the A "spades" on the flop, or.....

I am just missing the whole point of the message
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