Little old lady took my stack and had no idea she won.. sheesh

Wooderson · #1 (**permalink**) 12-16-2005, 12:42 PM

This happened to me this past Wednesday at an Amatuer Poker Legue game.

I am on the button, we are in the third hand of the game so everyone pretty much has t3350.

Action starts:

Button - Wooderson:

SB
BB - Villain
UTG1
UTG2
MP
CO

Ok, pre-flop pretty much all stay in as it comes to me, I raise t260 to make the total bet t300. BB, UTG1, MP, CO call. All others fold.

Flop comes:

. I have top pair and iffy 3-to-a-flush. BB bets t100, UTG1 calls, folds to me and I raise t300 to t400. Both call. Pot is now t2700.

4th street:

BB bets t200, UTG calls. I raise t400 to t600. Both call. At this point I am astounded. I have TPTK against the BB. She is an older lady, let's say about 75, who won the prior hand with a full house she wasn't aware she had. I put her at best on trips. Pot is now t4100

River:

I have my flush and fourth to the nuts. I don't think BB had quads, and based on the fact that she just had a full house and didn't know it I don't put much stock in her play. She has limped constantly in all three hands we've played, so I also don't think she's got any full house that's out there.

She bets t200 again. Here is where I make el grande mistakeo - I raise t1850 to make is t2050 and I cover her by about t100. Why raise? I think I have the best hand, just take it down... I don't know. She calls and I flip my AK.

"I knew you had the flush but I had trips and had to call." She turns over wired-8s revealing she has a full house. But she gets up to leave the table and says, "Good luck all."

Everyone reals her back in - second time she wins and has no idea. Holy poop.

She's either daft, or bluffing her entire persona.

Colquhoun · #2 (**permalink**) 12-16-2005, 12:50 PM

It can be a little confusing for some beginners to see the full house when the pair is on the board. They are so overjoyed to see that they hit their set, anything else is inconsequential.

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Originally Posted by Wooderson

She turns over wired-8s revealing she has the nut full house.

Actually, the nut full house is holding AA here. Heck, even JJ would beat HER full house.
I actually had a similar situation to yours, and it knocked me out... Here's the LINK to my post. Sorry about your bad beat.

jojobinks · #3 (**permalink**) 12-16-2005, 01:04 PM

urgh, what's our defnition of bad beat here? didn't she have you beat on all streets?

Lime · #4 (**permalink**) 12-16-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jojobinks

urgh, what's our defnition of bad beat here? didn't she have you beat on all streets?

Word, you never had the better hand. Bad luck, but no bad beat.

99%evil · #5 (**permalink**) 12-16-2005, 01:26 PM

I had a similar hand a few weeks ago that I ended up losing on the river, but mine was more bad beatish, but was still just bad luck and I didn't really get too steamed about it.

I had

Raise preflop get a couple callers

Flop comes

I've got a nut gut straight draw and a royal flush draw and put in a decent bet and get one caller and all others fold

Turn

I hit my straight and call a bet hoping to get more on the river
River

I now have the high flush and put the bad guy all-in. He calls while saying, I know you have me beat and shows

.... Uhuh, he thought I was on pocket kings...and still called it down... Oh well, he hit two pair on the flop and I didn't raise on the turn which was probably the one big mistake I made. He had 4 outs and caught the one that made me a flush, it happens.

Fins · #6 (**permalink**) 12-16-2005, 01:27 PM

Two pair is another likely holding you should be fearing in this situation.
Amateur = A-rag
Definitely don't like the value bet on the end.

krw17 · #7 (**permalink**) 12-16-2005, 01:28 PM

I think that the interest in the story is not that it is a bad beat, but that this little old lady thought she was beat, but kept dumping money in the pot anyway.

You should change the title from bad beat to "little ol' lady took all my money and didn't eve realize it"

Wooderson · #8 (**permalink**) 12-16-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by krw17

I think that the interest in the story is not that it is a bad beat, but that this little old lady thought she was beat, but kept dumping money in the pot anyway.

You should change the title from bad beat to "little ol' lady took all my money and didn't eve realize it"

Ding ding ding. Give the man a prize.

I mean she got up to walk away!

SpeakEasy · #9 (**permalink**) 12-17-2005, 07:58 PM

You can chalk it up to a good read, maybe? She thought she was beat, you read that she thought she was beat, so you raised on the river.

Yeah, that was it.

FL70 · #10 (**permalink**) 12-20-2005, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Wooderson

I put her at best on trips.

If you put her on a set before the board paired, how can you make that big raise after the river? You put her on AA, JJ, 88, or 33 - so the river 3 is death no matter which one she has.

Hey, I know it's tough to lay down A-high flushes, but you gotta listen to yourself!

Rough one.