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Old 12-09-2005, 04:45 PM
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Some new ideas for chip labeling and label protection

I finally got around to labeling my chips last night. I came up with a few ideas that I haven't seen on the board yet, so I thought I'd share.

Idea #1 - Color Matching to your own printer...

I tried the color codes for the Nexgen Bees that I found on the web, and they didn't match out of my Canon printer, so I did my own color matching. I printed a color wheel onto a blank sheet of the glossy label paper so I could see exactly what color would best match the chip colors on the paper I would actually be using. After printing the color wheel, I moved the chip around the sheet until I found the exact color for the part of the chip I was trying to match. I also printed a grid pattern on the color wheel so that I could see exactly where the color I chose was on the printout and match it to the same location on the digital illustrator file, then I used the eyedropper tool to get the RGB (or CMYK) codes for that color.



Idea #2 - Chip Protection using Clear Labels...

I ordered clear labels for laserjet printers to use as a protective layer for the glossy inkjet labels I was going to use for the actual image. The clear labels for laserjet have a silky matte finish, are very thin, and are somewhat water resistant (inkjet printing won't stick). After applying the inkjet label with the printed image on it, I put the clear laserjet label over it. These clear labels are thin enough to put on top of the printed label on a nexgen chip without changing the stackable thickness of the chip. When I run my finger over the labels on the chip, I can tell they are still recessed from the perimiter of the chip, and the labeled chip stack vs. the nonlabeled chip stack proves this. It is twice as much time to do the labeling, but the end result looks and feels great, and I didn't have to worry about an even finish or incomplete coverage of a protective spray. I haven't tried a beer test yet, but this will definitely pass a sweaty hands test. Chip handling and chip shuffling feel great. The surface of the protective label feels like vellum paper as opposed to the tackiness of inkjet printing on glossy photo paper.


Idea #3 - Tips on printer to label alignment...

Make sure to always use the same paper feed orientation for your label sheets when putting them into your printer. Here, I marked the ends of the sheets that I will feed into the printer first so that I don't get alignment problems if the labels are not cut exactly symmetrically and I accidentally switch the paper orientation direction.


Finally, I tried setting up my Illustrator label template to the label sheet by first printing only the corner circles to save ink, then shifting my template file slightly each time until all 4 corners lined up perfectly. I actually even had to put in about a 0.05 degree rotation to the sheet because of the way my printer feeds the paper through.


Because the 4 corners printed dead on, I thought was ready to print my first full label sheet. However, when I printed a full sheet, the rows of printed label graphic would slowly creep upwards in relation to the label cutout. So even if the top row of labels printed perfectly, by the time I got to the 9th row of labels (bottom of the sheet), the graphic was shifted upwards about 0.1"! I attribute this to my printer, where the feed rate while printing is marginally different than the feed rate while not printing. That means on my label alignment test pass when I only printed the corners, the printer would print the first row, feed 80% of the paper without doing any printing, then print the last row and give me perfect alignment. But when I printed the actual labels on the full length of the sheet, the feed rate varied by 0.1" by the time I got to the last label. To get perfect label alignment during actual label printing, I had to take that 0.1" and divide that by the nine rows of labels. So instead of the 1.125" between label centers, I actually had to create my template to have 1.1375" between the rows! Seems funny, but the end result was dead on perfectly centered label on the entire sheet. This is probably a printer specific problem, but something you might keep in mind if you get the same problem as I had.

Perfectly centered labels....
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:25 PM
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Re: Some new ideas for chip labeling and label protection

Great tips, and beautiful pics. The design is so nice, but really takes advantage of the lucky bees' color combos... The clear labels on top sound like a great idea!
Very nice.
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Re: Some new ideas for chip labeling and label protection

Good stuff, DJ^3 !
I'd worry a little about how the inkjet print will react to the adhesive from the clear label ...
keep us updated, will you?
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Re: Some new ideas for chip labeling and label protection

Qube, that is some excellent info. Who did your design/artwork? How was it done? I have the Nexgen RPT chips and I'm trying to come up with some sort of design. I think I'm just gonna get some craft paper and draw out my chips, get some colored pencils and physically play around since I'm not very computer literate.
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Re: Some new ideas for chip labeling and label protection

Excellent article DJ Qube. Perhaps one of the mods could put this in the article section. Those chips look very nice.
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Good stuff, DJ^3 !
I'd worry a little about how the inkjet print will react to the adhesive from the clear label ...
keep us updated, will you?
There were no problems from the inkjet print reacting to the adhesive... Absolutely none.


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Qube, that is some excellent info. Who did your design/artwork? How was it done? I have the Nexgen RPT chips and I'm trying to come up with some sort of design. I think I'm just gonna get some craft paper and draw out my chips, get some colored pencils and physically play around since I'm not very computer literate.
Design / Artwork done by me with some 3D modeling software + Photoshop + Illustrator.

There was also a question in another post about how the clear label on top of the printed label would react to water. I did my own 15 minute water test (why waste beer?), and here are the results...

1) Timer set to 15 minutes.

2) Chip goes in the water.

3) 5 minutes elapsed.

4) 10 minutes elapsed.

5) 15 minutes elapsed.

6) Side by Side comparison of dunked chip (left) vs. dry chip (right)

7) Graphics become muddy around the perimeter of the label.

8 ) Peeling off the label and looking at the backside reveals the clear label prevented the face of the label from getting wet, but water was able to penetrated the label from the sides. Not completely waterproof, but definitely better than an unprotected label. If the labels get wet, I suggest wiping them off quickly. The chip should still be okay afterwards.
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Re: Some new ideas for chip labeling and label protection

Very nice info. Good way to have some sharp looking chips for low price. I guess it depends on time vs $$$.
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Re: Some new ideas for chip labeling and label protection

Would you mind sharing the color codes for the Lucky Bees that you discovered through your process? Or are the codes specific to your printer? I'm attempting to design my own labels as well.

Thanks.
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Re: Some new ideas for chip labeling and label protection

The color wheel is a good idea but how do you go back and get the exact color based off the grid, do you have to approximate the lacoation of it on the screen or can you hold the sheet over the screen and match it up?

What I did was make an html page and print every color code there is and print it out and then I could locate the exact square on the table on the page and use a dropper to copy it. Here is the page I made http://www.qtimls.com/colors/webform1.aspx
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Would you mind sharing the color codes for the Lucky Bees that you discovered through your process? Or are the codes specific to your printer? I'm attempting to design my own labels as well.

Thanks.
I have the color codes buried somewhere at home, but unless you have the same printer / paper as me (or are colorblind), you'd be much better off doing the test yourself. I'll post them when I have a chance.


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The color wheel is a good idea but how do you go back and get the exact color based off the grid, do you have to approximate the lacoation of it on the screen or can you hold the sheet over the screen and match it up?

What I did was make an html page and print every color code there is and print it out and then I could locate the exact square on the table on the page and use a dropper to copy it. Here is the page I made http://www.qtimls.com/colors/webform1.aspx
The grid thing isn't very hard to do. If you find it difficult to locate the correct spot, you can make your grids smaller. You can't really hold the sheet over the screen though, because you want to print the color wheel onto the same type of paper that you are printing the labels for color accuracy. If you can't see through your label paper, then you can't see the screen.

The HTML page is a good idea, but is there some limit to the color depth for HTML color codes? 256 colors or something? I'm not an HTML programmer, so forgive my ignance. Looks like a lot of ink to print that, too!

I had a request for the color wheel before, so here it is for anyone who would like to use it.
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