Protecting Labels a must??

kiddspl · #1 (**permalink**) 12-07-2005, 03:46 PM

I have Nexgens and I got some custom labels printed by Cinos3. I was wondering if I had to put protectant on the, not if I should, but if its a must? Its 30* here now in my garage and thats the only place I would be able to spray the sheets. If you guys dont think that that would be a problem then Ill go ahead and do that, but I would imagine that it would. So I dont really want to have to wait until spring to spray these labels to put on my chips so what do you guys suggest? Does anyone have theses labels who havnt sprayed Krylon protector or glass paint on them, if so how have they held up? I sprayed one chip that I already put a label on (I have extras so I thought it would be ok to test it) and it turned the image darker so it doesnt match very well. Any comments, or suggestions? Thanks!

littlebu · #2 (**permalink**) 12-07-2005, 03:50 PM

If you don't spray them if they get even a tiny bit of water(liquid) on them it will start to bleed. Spray them in the garage and after a minute take them in the house to finish drying I would think that would be fine

PocketRocket · #3 (**permalink**) 12-07-2005, 03:57 PM

Things being done improperly because of inconvenience and impatience seem to be a little too common these days.

On the other hand, you're probably going to have problems with the Krylon with an ambient temperature of 30º, and you may even encounter some drying problems. At the very least, you'll probably want to put the Krylon cans into some warm (not hot!) water bath (like no more than 100ºF). If you don't have a heater in the garage, some strong lights (like 500 watt halogens) might help to warm up the surface that you'll be spraying and aid in the curing of the acrylic. Or better yet, see if you can find an auto body shop that will let you spray on their premises

Bear in mind that the labels should be sprayed before they are applied to the chip. You shouldn't be spraying the chip.

No you don't have to spray the labels, they just might last longer and be less susceptable to damage from liquids if they are sprayed.

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Originally Posted by kiddspl

I have Nexgens and I got some custom labels printed by Cinos3. I was wondering if I had to put protectant on the, not if I should, but if its a must? Its 30* here now in my garage and thats the only place I would be able to spray the sheets. If you guys dont think that that would be a problem then Ill go ahead and do that, but I would imagine that it would. So I dont really want to have to wait until spring to spray these labels to put on my chips so what do you guys suggest? Does anyone have theses labels who havnt sprayed Krylon protector or glass paint on them, if so how have they held up? I sprayed one chip that I already put a label on (I have extras so I thought it would be ok to test it) and it turned the image darker so it doesnt match very well. Any comments, or suggestions? Thanks!

kiddspl · #4 (**permalink**) 12-07-2005, 04:02 PM

I do have work lights that I can shine at the labels before i spray them and while they dry. I dont raelly want to have to bring them inside due to the smeel involved with the process. It seems to me that its pretty much neccessary that these labels be sprayed before being used. I guess Ill run to the store tonight and try to get the Krylon protection stuff, if they have it. Also how many cans should I get if I need to spray labels for 500 chips? Thanks a lot for your input guys!

Poboy · #5 (**permalink**) 12-07-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PocketRocket

At the very least, you'll probably want to put the Krylon cans into some warm (not hot!) water bath (like no more than 100ºF). If you don't have a heater in the garage, some strong lights (like 500 watt halogens) might help to warm up the surface that you'll be spraying and aid in the curing of the acrylic.

Listen to this man.

Warming the can is a must.
Work lights would be perfect. Those things get pretty hot. If you have some kind of aluminum or metal plate, you could put your sheet of labels on that to spray. The metal will heat up quickly from the lights, and transfer that heat to the labels.
I would think for 500 labels one can would be enough, but I don't have experience spraying labels per se.

Sniper2075 · #6 (**permalink**) 12-07-2005, 04:19 PM

I work in the paint industry and at 30 degrees that is to cold to paint those labels. If possible do as littlebu said. Making sure that you store the labels and the spray cans in the house for a while before painting so the paint and labels are not cold. Then take them inside to dry. Other option is to use a portable heater to heat the garage while they dry. But may not be a good idea to use with flammable paint although you won't be spraying a large quantity.

edit to add: The work lights will probably be warm enough to dry them, just make sure everything in warm before you start painting.

Most paints will not dry below freezing, we recommend a minimum temp of 40, higher if possible. This is the reason companies have heated spray booths, not really needed where I live as during the day the temp usually rise into the 50 during the winter, today the high will be 64 and the low will be 44. Sorry I just had to, because in the summer it gets into the 110's.

kiddspl · #7 (**permalink**) 12-07-2005, 04:27 PM

Lol, must be nice to live where its in the 50-60 in the winter Sniper.... But thanks for all the info you guys. Im going to go get a can of the Krylon stuff and do it tomorrow with the lights and all.... Thanks again!!

PocketRocket · #8 (**permalink**) 12-07-2005, 04:39 PM

Having been in both environments during the winter, you should be aware that 50º in a low humidity environment can feel colder than 30º in a more humid environment (such as most places east of the Rockies). I can walk around in a light jacket (or no jacket even) if the temps are in the low 30's in the midwest or east, but if it gets that cold in California, I'm probably going to put on a parka (and it's been going down that low lately).

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Lol, must be nice to live where its in the 50-60 in the winter Sniper....

PocketRocket · #9 (**permalink**) 12-07-2005, 05:19 PM

One can should be more than adequate for 1000 labels. You should have enough to put 2-4 coats on the labels and still have a bit left over in the can. Generally 2-3 coats should be adequate.

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Also how many cans should I get if I need to spray labels for 500 chips?