[Saemi]

I know there are lots of faux + labels threads but no one answers my question!

Has anyone tried 3/4" label on the faux clay? And what kind of labels should I use... just plane matt or rippedsheets or what?

Thanks,
Saemi

[Saemi]

OOPS SORRY.... Posted on wrong place!
[EDIT: Thread moved --- CaptLego]

[PocketRocket]

I wouldn't put a label on a faux clay. It's just going to end up getting worn away as the labels rub against each other when the chips are being handled. And it will most likely impact the way the chips stack and the overall thickness of a stack of chips.

Originally Posted by Saemi

I know there are lots of faux + labels threads but no one answers my question!

Has anyone tried 3/4" label on the faux clay? And what kind of labels should I use... just plane matt or rippedsheets or what?

Thanks,
Saemi

[Oldcycles]

Originally Posted by PocketRocket

I wouldn't put a label on a faux clay. It's just going to end up getting worn away as the labels rub against each other when the chips are being handled. And it will most likely impact the way the chips stack and the overall thickness of a stack of chips.

I have heard in some threads they were fine.
I also started a thread wanting the people that did this to post everything in one thread because the links on the old threads don't work.
People have had time to use there labeled faux clays but no one has posted how they held up or any pics in it yet.
I would really like to be sure myself because I just ordered 2400 of them and am getting ready to make labels.

[PocketRocket]

The best thing would probably to try a few for yourself before you go and label the whole bunch. From what I've seen of these chips, I have every reason to believe that the labels would rub against each other since the center portion of the chip does not have an adequately recessed area that would make it a good candidate for a label. Onlinelabels will send you a couple of sample sheets of the 1" labels for the asking. You don't really need to print anything on the labels to see if they'll rub against each other, if you want you can just draw something on the label or just leave them bare.

Originally Posted by Oldcycles

I have heard in some threads they were fine.
I also started a thread wanting the people that did this to post everything in one thread because the links on the old threads don't work.
People have had time to use there labeled faux clays but no one has posted how they held up or any pics in it yet.
I would really like to be sure myself because I just ordered 2400 of them and am getting ready to make labels.

[Oldcycles]

Check out this these threads.

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/showth...ight=faux+clay
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/showth...ight=faux+clay

Here is a quote from Gramma from back in april maybe he will update us.

you can put labels on the faux clay chip,it just takes a little more time. You just don't stick it on and call it a night.After you center it as best you can rub the label and get all the air out then take a smooth object and gently push the label down into the gutter. Then rub the top of the label again and it will be fine. I have mine labeled and they look much better than they did. You can use regular 1 inch labels,they stack great and do not feel slippery at all.The center circle on the chip is actually not level with the chip. It is probably a hair lower than the outer part of the chip. If it wasn't the chips would wobble and not stack that good. So I say it again,yes you can put labels on,no they don't feel slippery and yes they feel,look and stack great. Oh yeah and I have first hand experience since ive labeled over a thousand of these . So far none have fallen off and I even have friends that have paid me to put them on there own faux chips. Remember its not that easy to put them on.Patience my friends ,patience.

Here is the whole thread.

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/showth...ight=faux+clay

This is from the Mightyjim2k in another thread.

I got my labels from Jason today and prepped a couple with matte finish and put them on.

Faux Clay myths that can be discounted:

1. Labels make slick ... not true chips actually stack exactly the same.
2. Labels will have contact and wear....I tried as hard as I could to get label to label contact to cause some kind of damage to the labels, but I got nothing. I am a pretty strong guy and trying as hard as I could the labels just dont come in contact. Possible reasons: the edges of the faux clays are slightly raised which possibly prevents middle contact OR as Knish stated before the center area is slightly recessed. I am talking like thousandsths of an inch here, but enough so that a label with finish does not come in contact with another.
3. Must remove injection spots before labeling ... you can put the labels on just fine without removing the spots, but the label will lump over the spot slightly. if this bothers you then you should probably scrape them out. If you cause damage to your chip in the scraping out process consider my sharpie solution that can be found under the heading Faux Clay Breakthrough under the general chips forum.

I love my chips. Including 1000 chips, shipping, label cost, matt finish cost, sharpies and racks for them I paid: $165

They handle better than any non-clay chip, and with a label look better than any composite.

here is a picture



here is that thread.
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/showth...=3&pp=&conly=1

Do a search and spend the next couple of weeks reading like I did but this will give you a start.

Hope this is helpful.

Edit to let you know the links I posted were in the middle of the threads.
Sorry wasn't thinking. Just go to page 1 after following the link.

[Saemi]

Originally Posted by Oldcycles

Check out this these threads.

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/showth...ight=faux+clay
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/showth...ight=faux+clay

Here is a quote from Gramma from back in april maybe he will update us.

you can put labels on the faux clay chip,it just takes a little more time. You just don't stick it on and call it a night.After you center it as best you can rub the label and get all the air out then take a smooth object and gently push the label down into the gutter. Then rub the top of the label again and it will be fine. I have mine labeled and they look much better than they did. You can use regular 1 inch labels,they stack great and do not feel slippery at all.The center circle on the chip is actually not level with the chip. It is probably a hair lower than the outer part of the chip. If it wasn't the chips would wobble and not stack that good. So I say it again,yes you can put labels on,no they don't feel slippery and yes they feel,look and stack great. Oh yeah and I have first hand experience since ive labeled over a thousand of these . So far none have fallen off and I even have friends that have paid me to put them on there own faux chips. Remember its not that easy to put them on.Patience my friends ,patience.

Here is the whole thread.

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/showth...ight=faux+clay

This is from the Mightyjim2k in another thread.

I got my labels from Jason today and prepped a couple with matte finish and put them on.

Faux Clay myths that can be discounted:

1. Labels make slick ... not true chips actually stack exactly the same.
2. Labels will have contact and wear....I tried as hard as I could to get label to label contact to cause some kind of damage to the labels, but I got nothing. I am a pretty strong guy and trying as hard as I could the labels just dont come in contact. Possible reasons: the edges of the faux clays are slightly raised which possibly prevents middle contact OR as Knish stated before the center area is slightly recessed. I am talking like thousandsths of an inch here, but enough so that a label with finish does not come in contact with another.
3. Must remove injection spots before labeling ... you can put the labels on just fine without removing the spots, but the label will lump over the spot slightly. if this bothers you then you should probably scrape them out. If you cause damage to your chip in the scraping out process consider my sharpie solution that can be found under the heading Faux Clay Breakthrough under the general chips forum.

I love my chips. Including 1000 chips, shipping, label cost, matt finish cost, sharpies and racks for them I paid: $165

They handle better than any non-clay chip, and with a label look better than any composite.

here is that thread.
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/showth...=3&pp=&conly=1

Do a search and spend the next couple of weeks reading like I did but this will give you a start.

Hope this is helpful.

Edit to let you know the links I posted were in the middle of the threads.
Sorry wasn't thinking. Just go to page 1 after following the link.

Thanks man! I'm pretty shure that I'm going to label them, just wondering wich labels are best...! I'll probably contact Jason, the guys here seem to like his work.

[gramma]

Originally Posted by PocketRocket

I wouldn't put a label on a faux clay. It's just going to end up getting worn away as the labels rub against each other when the chips are being handled. And it will most likely impact the way the chips stack and the overall thickness of a stack of chips.

A bunch of us have labeled faux clays and we haven't had any problems that you've mentioned. Unless you have first hand experience handling these chips with labels as I do , you shouldn't talk negative about it. I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion but there are a few people here that have Faux clays labeled and would probably give a little better advice.No offense poketrocket.

[PocketRocket]

I'm famiilar with this chip having played around a bit with it quite early, soon after they were available. The chip itself is good for an import and as reviews have noted it has a very nice feel to it, especially for a 5¢ chip. It does not, however possess the attributes that would make it a good candidate for long term use with a label, like those that have a recessed center. As a matter of fact, it is probably a reasonable rival for Chipco's Unicorn chips, with it's low cost factor having a more inviting appeal for the budget home market.

That having been said, there is nothing that prevents anyone from putting a label onto any chip, and I have seen labels applied to just about every import chip that is around. You're right, it won't make it any slicker, it shouldn't, paper has a greater coefficent of friction than hard plastic; it would only stand to reason that there is a possibility that there may be some lessening of the slickness factor.

I don't think it's any secret to anyone that over the long term, sliding pieces of paper against each other will result in eventual wear. The usability factor of putting a label on a faux clay is probably most dependent upon frequency of use and expected useful life for these chips. As a low cost chip, for many it may be a short-term interim solution, and they may serve well for this purpose until the chips are replaced. The other factor to take into account would be frequency of use, the labels may last for several years for someone who may only use them once or twice a month. As such, as I suggested earlier, it is probably best for an individual contemplating the use of labels on these chips (especially if it is going to be large quantity), to try it on a smaller quantity first to see if it suits their intended use as individual, rather than relying upon the testimony of a web posting that may have entriely different expectations.

As you mentioned, "everyone is entitled to an opinion", however that's often not the perception of some web forum participants when it disagrees with their own. Unfortunately, that's what makes for 'flaming' on intenet discussion boards.

Originally Posted by gramma

A bunch of us have labeled faux clays and we haven't had any problems that you've mentioned. Unless you have first hand experience handling these chips with labels as I do , you shouldn't talk negative about it. I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion but there are a few people here that have Faux clays labeled and would probably give a little better advice.No offense poketrocket.

[littlebu]

I have labeled faux's. I got them shortly after I joined up here and pain stakingly scraped off 1000 injection spots and applied labels. These have been used on average 2 times a week for the last 3 months without any problems yet. No wearing and no spinners. That said their not that old and as stated they are just serving as an interim chip for me until I save up for some clays. They are a great chip for the $$ and I would recommend them to anyone but I can't say anything about the long term wear yet.