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Blue Chip Flame / Shell Mold . . . Comparison

I was looking at the Blue Chip Shell / Flame mold chips. They say that they use these in casinos. I was looking at pictures and the molds dont match.

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As you can clearly see, the molds dont match up. So is the casino chips and the Blue Chip Shell / Flame mold chip the same. Any help is appreciated.

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Yeah, both Blue Chip and Paulson apply two different inlays to the same mold, making them different chips but not really different molds. So maybe it's just semantics.

If you take the Flames mold or the Paulson Reverse Hat & Cane mold and apply a medium-sized inlay (called Grand by Paulson), you get a chip like the Four Queens above. Or the Tilt Colorado chips, or many other BC chips. These fantasy/custom chips are the same as the casino chips.

But if you take that same mold and apply a larger inlay -- pressed into the clay during manufacturing -- (call Giant by Paulson) you get the full-face graphic chip, like the Fan of Cards shown above.

Here's the Paulson comparison picture:


So are these the same chip or not?
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Molds are part of the security. That's one of the reasons Paulson stopped selling to the home market. Now they are, but not with the H&C mold, ya know? When BC says "as used in casinos" they mean the material and process are the same... there's no way they're going to use the same molds for both.
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Re: Blue Chip Flame / Shell Mold . . . Comparison

The Flame or Shell mold that you see in the Fan of Cards and other chips from Blue chip are sold to the public. The chip with the Sun mold like the one that you displayed from the Four Queens is only made for casinos. Those chips probably have a lower cost than similar chips from Paulson since they are being adopted for low value chips (like $1) at both Vegas and Reno casinos, though I guess the tradeoff would be that they also do not have the options for security that the GPI chips would have. The chips that are sold to the public are usually also quite a bit lighter, though they are undeniably a 'clay' chip the minute you pick one up. You can tell by the texture of the edge and the sharpness of the corners.

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I was looking at the Blue Chip Shell / Flame mold chips. They say that they use these in casinos. I was looking at pictures and the molds dont match.

As you can clearly see, the molds dont match up. So is the casino chips and the Blue Chip Shell / Flame mold chip the same. Any help is appreciated.

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The Flame or Shell mold that you see in the Fan of Cards and other chips from Blue chip are sold to the public. The chip with the Sun mold like the one that you displayed from the Four Queens is only made for casinos.
Yes you are absolutely right. The Sun mold is different.
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Re: Blue Chip Flame / Shell Mold . . . Comparison

I think 'used in casinos' is as bad as 'clay' when it is used to pitch to the consumer market. I often wonder how much (or more likely how little) clay is actually used in the production of a compressed casino grade chip.

Though my favorite one is still a 12 gram injection molded chip with a metal slug topped with an adhesive label. That could be either a Chinese import or a Bud Jones V7 chip .

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The Flame or Shell mold that you see in the Fan of Cards and other chips from Blue chip are sold to the public. The chip with the Sun mold like the one that you displayed from the Four Queens is only made for casinos.
Yes you are absolutely right. The Sun mold is different.
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