 |  | | 
05-13-2008, 08:25 AM
|  | Big Stack | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,577
Chips: 33 | | | Missing chips: Who's wrong here? Here's the story:
I agreed to buy $200 worth of chips (MGM Detroit Quarters). This person WAS not a chiptalker, but I was referred to him. He has since joined chiptalk in an attempt to sell chips here.
1. I sent payment by check, because he didn't want paypal.
2. Check cleared my account, I have the copy of it to prove it.
3. He said he would mail out the chips. A few days later, he said he had forgot, but that he did eventually get them out Saturday, May 3rd, priority mail.
4. I don't get the chips for over a week. The package only had to travel a couple hundred miles, so I'm convinced it's not coming.
5. I contact the seller, he says "It's your loss". I told him that I have no proof that he actually mailed the chips, I need to see that the Post office screwed it up. He said he would find the receipt (lie), but still hasn't presented it to me.
Am I wrong in thinking that unless he can prove he mailed it on that day, he hasn't fullfilled his obligation as the seller? Let me know if I'm wrong here.
I know it's good to get insurance (which I always do when I ship quality items), but the issue isn't the post office here. He is lying to me about sending the chips, and trying to blame the post office. He hasn't shown me a receipt yet, and until he does, I have no reason to believe him.
Is there anything I can do?
At this point, I don't think I can get my money back. But, if he doesn't show me the receipt and still refuses to refund, I am going to let the rest of the chiptalk community know who it is, so that you don't buy from him and get screwed as well. Hopefully loss of business would be enough motivation to fix this transaction. UPDATE - I've now found out there are AT LEAST two others who have the same suspicions/problems with the same seller. Needless to say, don't buy MGM Detroit chips until further notice.
Last edited by ontheuptick : 05-13-2008 at 09:20 AM.
| 
05-13-2008, 08:33 AM
| | LNPT Playa! | | Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 235
Chips: 1,454 | | | Re: Missing chips: Who's wrong here? Seller should be able to provide a receipt, tracking number or other evidence that they did ship the items you paid for. You paid good money, and he needs to step up. If he's not willing to do that, let everyone know who it is. | 
05-13-2008, 08:40 AM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Roch cha cha, NY
Posts: 2,365
Chips: 2,392 | | | Re: Missing chips: Who's wrong here? Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheuptick 3. He said he would mail out the chips. A few days later, he said he had forgot, but that he did eventually get them out Saturday, May 3rd, priority mail. | Tracking number and insurance right?
.
__________________ Thinking about order from BCC? I did. And it took a year and half.
Here are few threads to read up on BCC: BCC NCV chips | How BCC takes care of a bad order | Warped BCC chips
Ask BCC: Why does it take 6-8 months when you promised 4-5 weeks? How come you didn't look at the chips before you sent them out? Why does it take 6+ months for BCC to make good on a bad order after waiting 6-8 months in the first place? | 
05-13-2008, 08:43 AM
| | On the Bubble | | Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 156
Chips: 66 | | | Re: Missing chips: Who's wrong here? They may show up. I won an ebay auction in February, and when the chips didn't show up after 3 weeks, the seller agreed to refund my money. She said, "if they show up, send me the money." I forgot about it until they showed up last week at my house, I was shocked. (3 months later.)
I know a lot of people refuse to use the USPS for packages, it seems to me UPS or fedex are worth the extra money b/c of their excellent record and tracking systems.
So, I don't know how long you should give this guy, but they may show up. | 
05-13-2008, 08:46 AM
|  | Big Stack | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,577
Chips: 33 | | | Re: Missing chips: Who's wrong here? Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexttime Tracking number and insurance right?
. | No and no.
When I ship, I always do delivery confirm/insurance. He said that was crazy and that he never does that unless specified by the buyer (he told me that after I realized there may be a problem and the chips may be lost). I would have paid the extra $2 for insurance, but it wasn't ever mentioned during the purchase of the chips.
Like I said though, I'm 99% confident that the chips never got mailed out. | 
05-13-2008, 09:04 AM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 573
Chips: 738 | | | Re: Missing chips: Who's wrong here? This might be the same person I bought 40 quarters from and didn't get them in 3 weeks...
I asked for insurance though
__________________ my traders
WTB: $5 Vineyards! pm plz | 
05-13-2008, 09:06 AM
|  | Final Table | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 987
Chips: 1,009 | | | Re: Missing chips: Who's wrong here? The seller has no proof that he sent the chips. He is obviously responsible here.
I would certainly like to know who it is. | 
05-13-2008, 09:10 AM
|  | Big Stack | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,577
Chips: 33 | | | Re: Missing chips: Who's wrong here? Quote:
Originally Posted by JoseRijo The seller has no proof that he sent the chips. He is obviously responsible here.
I would certainly like to know who it is. | I am giving the chips a little more time to get here, and giving him a chance to refund my money if he can't provide a receipt. I just wanted to make sure I was right in my thinking.
If neither of those things happen, I'll make sure everyone on CT knows not to buy from this guy. | 
05-13-2008, 09:16 AM
|  | On the Bubble | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Age: 34
Posts: 163
Chips: 154 | | | Re: Missing chips: Who's wrong here? I found out via PM that I am waiting for chips from the same guy...  | 
05-13-2008, 09:18 AM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 573
Chips: 738 | | | Re: Missing chips: Who's wrong here? Yeah, same guy here too. This starts to look very suspicious!
__________________ my traders
WTB: $5 Vineyards! pm plz | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is On Chips Per Thread View: 0 Chips Per Thread: 0 Chips Per Reply: 0 | | | |  |