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02-22-2007, 08:19 AM
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Chips: 51 | | | Chipco edge spot alignment (lack thereof) I was just looking at a M-to-M post featuring Matsui Zens and was admiring the way the edge spots line up from face-to-rolling edge; why is it that Chipco can't pull this together?
I've always thought that the way the Chipco edgespots are misaligned looks kinda hacky. | 
02-22-2007, 08:27 AM
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Chips: 557 | | | Re: Chipco edge spot alignment (lack thereof) Chipco wants you to focus on the faces of the chip (not the edges) since that is their strength & real appeal. I'd like to know the same thing though | 
02-22-2007, 08:33 AM
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Chips: 1,714 | | | Re: Chipco edge spot alignment (lack thereof) First Matsuis are molded plastic. Second Chipco puts a white ring around the chip to minimize the appearance of wear. So even if they aligned edgespots there would still be a gap. Graphics, on the face and edge, are what sell ceramics. If you want alinged edgespots get clay. | 
02-22-2007, 08:54 AM
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Chips: 1,483 | | | Re: Chipco edge spot alignment (lack thereof) Matsui are plastic, Chipco are ceramic. The edges on Chipcos are printed on, the Matsuis are molded that way. Two different kinds of chips.
There are manufacturers of ceramic chips that will line up the edges for you, Chipco just isn't one of them. | 
02-22-2007, 08:56 AM
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Chips: 710 | | | Re: Chipco edge spot alignment (lack thereof) If you look at most well designed Chipco chips, the edge spots do not go beyond the rolling edge onto the face of the chip. I would technically call these rolling edge designs as you don't have to use spots at all. If the chip design takes into effect that restriction you can come up with some really nice things that do not depend on edge spots being on the face of the chip.
For those designs where this restriction(or shortcoming, you choose) is not taken into consideration it is indeed something you must get used to or the Chipco chips won't last long in your collection.
One thing I personally think makes Chipco ceramics superior is the feel of them compared to the other ceramic blanks, I've had the other's in my hands, shuffled them, and they just don't measure up.
And, as has been mentioned earlier, the white ring would make those spots still seem disjointed even if they did match up.
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02-22-2007, 09:09 AM
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Chips: 51 | | | Re: Chipco edge spot alignment (lack thereof) It actually doesn't bother me over-much and certainly wouldn't keep me from buying a set. It's actually just a small issue that I can live with.
I know about the white ring but will have to agree to disagree where the alignment not looking right because of the ring is concerned; I still think it would look better aligned, despite the minimal interruption of pigmentation.
I agree with the feel being top-notch and am doing some flourishes with my Crystal Oysters right now at my desk.
Regarding plastics versus ceramics though; isn't it all semantics? They're both made of plastic after all; the industry just gives them a different name to catagorize them, based on sound/construction/pigmentation methods.
Both are plastic though however you slice it. Kinda like sucrose vs. fructose vs. corn syrup: it's all basically sugar when you boil it down to it's core molecular structure. | 
02-22-2007, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MisterShark It actually doesn't bother me over-much and certainly wouldn't keep me from buying a set. It's actually just a small issue that I can live with.
I know about the white ring but will have to agree to disagree where the alignment not looking right because of the ring is concerned; I still think it would look better aligned, despite the minimal interruption of pigmentation.
I agree with the feel being top-notch and am doing some flourishes with my Crystal Oysters right now at my desk.
Regarding plastics versus ceramics though; isn't it all semantics? They're both made of plastic after all; the industry just gives them a different name to catagorize them, based on sound/construction/pigmentation methods.
Both are plastic though however you slice it. Kinda like sucrose vs. fructose vs. corn syrup: it's all basically sugar when you boil it down to it's core molecular structure. | That's like saying all poker chips are the same because they are round and thin. The pyramids in Egypt are the same as the Luxor too. It's the construction that makes the chips distinct, not the molecules of the plastic. And there is much more variation in plastic polymers than you'll ever find in sugars. | 
02-22-2007, 09:50 AM
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Chips: 1,483 | | | Re: Chipco edge spot alignment (lack thereof) The chips are manufactured completely different.
Chipco chips are blank pucks that have designs printed on them, including the edges.
Matsui chips are plastic that are molded together.
They're not even close to the same thing. | 
02-22-2007, 10:04 AM
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Chips: 6,040 | | | Re: Chipco edge spot alignment (lack thereof) On a molecular level, Plastics and Ceramic are not even close to the same thing.
Also, just about every other company that offers ceramic chips will do aligned edgespots, so if getting a ceramic chip with this feature is important to you, it can be done.
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02-22-2007, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by the3rd That's like saying all poker chips are the same because they are round and thin. The pyramids in Egypt are the same as the Luxor too. It's the construction that makes the chips distinct, not the molecules of the plastic. And there is much more variation in plastic polymers than you'll ever find in sugars. | ...hence my notation: "...catagorize them, based on sound/ construction/pigmentation..." | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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