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Question about mint BJ V7

Ok folks, after talking with Jamby on the subject for a while. I was wondering if mint BJ v7s have sharp edges (like bj cic or mint paulsons) or if they come with more rounded edges. anyone with any knowledge please chime in. if the v7s come with sharp edges i would be kinda bummed, cause the chips i got arent anywhere near sharp like my paulsons.
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Re: Question about mint BJ V7

Thanks for posting this Snuffy. I'm hopeful that GO, Ross or maybe Jim from Nevada Jacks might know the answer to this question. Personally, I can't imagine why they wouldn't be sharp the way some of my mint CIC chips are, but you never know.

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Re: Question about mint BJ V7

yeah, after talking to you about it. i thought that it sounds right. but then i was looking at my matsui chips and they have rounded edges not sharp. so im just confused now...i do realize that the matsuis are a totally different brand and chip...but who knows.
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Re: Question about mint BJ V7

I am no expert on this but I will tell you what I have seen.
I have a $20 Borgada chip that I picked up on their grand opening day so I assume that is fairly mint (it came from the cage). I also have several $1 and $5 chips from the Borgada that I picked up last time I was in AC. These have been in circulation for a while now. All of these are V7 chips. I also have a very well used Hacienda $1 chip that I think is a V7 or V6 chip. Every one of these chips has the exact same edges as my Matsui Zen samples. They are not sharp as a new Paulson would be. They are somewhat softer. For what it is worth I can not tell any real wear differance from the new $20 chip to the used $1 chips. Now if you look at the mirage Springs Bud Jones V7 chips those have beveled edges and are a whole different monster.

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Re: Question about mint BJ V7

Bud Jones chips are not made of clay, but you already know that. However, they are not made the same way as clay chips, either. Based on what I've heard about the classic Bud Jones manufacturing process, here's what happens. I can't swear that this is current, since my info is a few years old.

BJs are injection molded in several steps, depending on the colors and patterns. But then they are finished on a high-speed machine that shapes them so each chip is identical, cutting off excess material. The finishing process includes rounding or beveling the edges, plus creating a very smooth and level face.

So no, BJs do not come out of a mold with sharp corners, like Paulson clay chips. Depending on how they were ordered, they come with a beveled or rounded edge, with a varying amount cut off depending on the specs. I have BJs with nearly square edges, and a few that have an intricate beveling pattern. The better V7 chips tend to have fancier rounded or beveled edges.

B&Gs (and Matsuis, I think) are made by a newer process that does not include the machining at the end.

Look at the fine rounded edge on this chip:


And you should be able to make out the different edges on some of these chips:
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Re: Question about mint BJ V7

I've got Cerromar Beach and Dorado Beach Bud Jones coin-in-center chips that do have sharp edges. Not all of them, but several that are in mint condition do have sharp edges.

That's how this discussion started. Don't know how to account for it, but it's a fact.
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Re: Question about mint BJ V7

I just purchased 300 Aruba-Caribbeans that are in mint condition and they do have sharp edges. Hope these pics will help.
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Thanks for the confirmation on the BJ sharp edges. Much appreciated.

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