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Old 12-02-2005, 05:24 PM
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Question Chip Laundering?

Sounds illegal, doesn't it?

Aside from the standard definition of "cleaning" dirty money by slowly working it into circulation, I think the term "Laundering" also comes from when people put crispy counterfeit money into a clothes dryer with other objects (sand, nuts, bolts, and casino chips, concidentally) to make it look more worn. Can this be done with crisp edged clays to give them that "broken in" feel that real casino chips feel like?

1) Run the drier on empty for a few minutes to get rid of any moisture in there from your last load of laundry.
2) Put the chips in a tied up pillowcase with some other objects.. possibly some nuts & bolts or something a bit less aggressive like loose change.
3) Use tumble dry only - no heat.
4) change the pillow case every hour or so, since I can imagine alot of chip dust accumulating.

Disclaimer: - I HAVE NEVER TRIED THIS, NOR AM I SAYING THIS WILL WORK. But it might be worth a try!

Anyone thought of or tried this?
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:25 PM
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Re: Chip Laundering?

You should try it out and let us know.

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Old 12-02-2005, 05:36 PM
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Re: Chip Laundering?

I'm not a chip expert, but I'd be a bit concerned about putting my clay chips in a bag with chunks of metal and bouncing them around.

I break my new Paulsons in 10 at a time. Everynight while I sit at the computer, I shuffle them most of the time. The only down side to this is that it sorta drives my girlfriend nuts. I've gotten in the habbit of doing this so much that I actually now prefer to shuffle brand new, razor sharp Paulsons. Once they arent so sharp I change the stack.

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Re: Chip Laundering?

I think someone has tried that with a pillowcase and just ended up with a bunch of broken chips. However if you'd like to try it, perhaps you could share your experience as well?

For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would pay top dollar (especially at today's prices) for casino quality chips and then want to accelerate the wear on the chips and significantly depreciate whatever resale value they might have.

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Sounds illegal, doesn't it?

Aside from the standard definition of "cleaning" dirty money by slowly working it into circulation, I think the term "Laundering" also comes from when people put crispy counterfeit money into a clothes dryer with other objects (sand, nuts, bolts, and casino chips, concidentally) to make it look more worn. Can this be done with crisp edged clays to give them that "broken in" feel that real casino chips feel like?

1) Run the drier on empty for a few minutes to get rid of any moisture in there from your last load of laundry.
2) Put the chips in a tied up pillowcase with some other objects.. possibly some nuts & bolts or something a bit less aggressive like loose change.
3) Use tumble dry only - no heat.
4) change the pillow case every hour or so, since I can imagine alot of chip dust accumulating.

Disclaimer: - I HAVE NEVER TRIED THIS, NOR AM I SAYING THIS WILL WORK. But it might be worth a try!

Anyone thought of or tried this?
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:47 PM
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For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would pay top dollar (especially at today's prices) for casino quality chips and then want to accelerate the wear on the chips and significantly depreciate whatever resale value they might have.
BPC.com sells their "In-Play" clays at 25% more than their modern clays.

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In our continuing relentless pursuit of a better poker chip, we asked ourselves if it was possible to make even better chips. So we decided to delve into the mind of home game poker players and ask them what reservations they had (if any) about the top clay poker chips on the market. What we found out was a little surprising. While they loved clay poker chips, there were a number of reservations that were widely shared. They biggest complaints were as follows:

The chip edges are too sharp - The most common complaint we heard was that the clay poker chips people were buying for their home games had sharper edges then they remember casino chips having. Since casinos use chips for about seven years on average before destroying them, the average chip you see in a casino is about 3.5 years old and thus has nicely rounded edges. In fact, most people have never even seen a brand new casino chip, so when they were asking for chips “exactly like the casinos use,” they really were asking for a chip that’s been worn in for 3.5 years.
The chips are too rough –We heard a lot of people complaining that the face of the clay chips they were buying for their home games were overly rough, unlike what they were used to in casinos. This complaint is related to the issue of the edges being too sharp (people are used to worn in chips, not new chips right out of the factory), but has a slightly different root cause. The mold for most clay chips used in casinos is intentionally made with a rough, textured surface. The exact reasons for this intentionally textured surface is debatable, even among industry insiders, but the general consensus is that it makes for better friction between chips which makes them stay in stacks better. Nonetheless, most casino chips become smooth after just a few years in play and still stack just fine, and casinos continue to use them another five or more years. As we found out, home game users far prefer the feel of the smooth “worn in” chips. The tradeoff in ability to stack is negligible, if noticeable at all. From what we can tell, the reason casino chips are intentionally made rough, may be just be based on unsubstantiated notions, or worse yet, just plain habit.


You don't have to use huge chucks of metal for this. Maybe even poker chips on poker chips would do the trick. Possibly even something very mild, like walnut shells.
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Re: Chip Laundering?

Just goes to show that you shouldn't believe everything you read on web sites.
I don't think you're seeing a big rush of orders for those chips either, though I'm sure there are some people who will buy them just as someone someplace will buy some products.

The pillowcase in the dryer experiment that I seem to remember hearing about only involved chips in the pillow case, no other foreign items were introduced. Again, if it's something you'd want to try, I'm sure your sharing your experience here afterwards will be welcomed.

I think the guy over at pokerchipsreviews.com mentioned something about shaking chips in a pillowcase, but there was no mention of a a dryer involved. The generally accepted means of wearing chips a little has been through actual use. Personally, I like the feel of new chips (especially compression molded chips with a linen (crosshatch) finish.

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You don't have to use huge chucks of metal for this. Maybe even poker chips on poker chips would do the trick. Possibly even something very mild, like walnut shells.
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if it's something you'd want to try, I'm sure your sharing your experience here afterwards will be welcomed.
I have Nexgens...
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Re: Chip Laundering?

Sheesh! There's absolutely no reason to try that with Nexgens. They don't have any problem with too much surface adhesion, as a matter of fact, many people complain about how slippery they are.

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Sheesh! There's absolutely no reason to try that with Nexgens. They don't have any problem with too much surface adhesion, as a matter of fact, many people complain about how slippery they are.
Haahaha... noo... I wasn't thinking about doing this to my Nexgens! I am looking into a set of new ASMs, and thought I might try this with them. I thought someone may have tried it already.
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Re: Chip Laundering?

I think you may have caught the drift of all of this. Yes, someone has tried it ... results bad, not recommended

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Haahaha... noo... I wasn't thinking about doing this to my Nexgens! I am looking into a set of new ASMs, and thought I might try this with them. I thought someone may have tried it already.
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