[BDixon]

I wanted to run this by you folks. Normally our home games have 5-7 players but we're slowly getting more. I don't expect to ever have 20 but there have been times where we would have had 11 if everyone who planned to show was able to make it.

I found a link to a spreadsheet in one of the other posts here and have been messing with it. Pharaoh spreadshet xl is the name. Since our games can vary so much in size, I wanted to figure something that would work OK with a 500 chip set but starting with about 30 chips(should keep everyone from thinking they're short stacked).

12 person with 4 rebuys -- this is more than I'd normally expect(5-7 normally) but leaves a little room incase the game grows in the next year and we start getting 10 or 11 guys even.

16 - $25 -- 192 needed- buy 200
11 - $100 - 180 needed - buy 200
1 - $500 - 48 needed - buy 50
0 $1000 - 32 needed - buy 50
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$2000
Blinds would start at 25/50. Also the needed number of chips includes chips that would be needed to color up during the game.

Does that look like an Ok way to go?

I've seen the HPT site and the chips needed page talking about 500 chips and T1000 per player but it looks like if we did get 11 or 12 guys we wouldn't have enough chips.

Thanks,
Brad

[Wylecoyo]

At a quick glance, it looks good to me. You didn't mention what specific type of chips you were planning on purchasing, but as long as you don't go with anything too obscure or unique you should be able to add on additional chips later if you need them - maybe not forever, but at least for the next couple of years or so.

[Jambine]

You could even stretch that set to 20 players, but you would have to delay the color-up to remove the $100’s until you could cover with the $,1000’s

[warewulf]

I do a T3000 with the following:

8 $25
8 $100
4 $500

You could do the same and just use 2 $500 chips. I have $1000 chips for color ups. I would think 16 $25 chips per player would get unmanageable.

[MeridianFC]

My set up for T2000 (for up to 10 players):

T25 X 20 (total buy 200)
T100 X 10 (total buy 200)
T500 X 1 (total buy 50)
T1000 X 0 (total buy 50) Just for rebuy and color up.

The set can me shifted for up to 20 but color ups can be tricky. I use a variation on Texas Tears so the 25s stay in play for antes in later rounds.

I just got in on the WSOP replica buy and got a few T5000 and T10000 (really just for the hell of it) to cover any larger tourney scenarios.

[BDixon]

Thanks for the responses. I've got a couple questions now though.

Mareidian starts with 20 - $25 chips but warewulf says he thinks 16 $25 chips would be to many. Does this just come down to personal preference? I doubt we'll ever use ante's in are game like Mareidian does.

Figuring the blind schedule:

25/50 - 1-25/2-25's = 3 - 25's just to cover blinds
50/75 - 2-25's/3-25's = 5 - 25's just to cover blinds
75/150 - 3-25's/1-100,2-25's = 5 - 25's just to cover blinds
100/200
200/400
300/600
500/1000
750/1500
1000/2000
Yes I know the blinds are a little quick but the guys don't want the games to last to long. Must be kept under 2 hrs, they'd prefer no more than 1.5 hrs.

I know you could make change from the pot for your blind(50/75 big blind can use a 100 and take a 25 out of pot) but I'm trying to keep it simple to start. Not to mention there is a lot of limping at times, it's not uncommon to have 4-5 seeing the flop in the first 2 rounds.

After talking to everyone more it appears the guys who have an issue with moving from every chip being of equal value is:
1. They say it's a pain to count your stack playing with chips of different value when there's an all-in.
2. After each game we'd have to re-setup the stacks for the next game.

Now number 1 may be slightly true but as long as you keep your stacks in say tens it's fairly quick to figure.
Number 2 is a non issue as far as I'm concerened because a couple guys smoke and insist on waiting till the game is over to go out and smoke. So we always have time to get ready for the next game.

Acouple of us would be happy with something as simple as all chips = 1 except pink which would = 5. Could start with 40 1's and 10 5's. We'd have the same number of chips in play(we start now with 50 all same value) yet it would almost double the starting chip to starting big blind ratio.

Any opinions?

[MeridianFC]

Originally Posted by BDixon

Thanks for the responses. I've got a couple questions now though.

Mareidian starts with 20 - $25 chips but warewulf says he thinks 16 $25 chips would be to many. Does this just come down to personal preference? I doubt we'll ever use ante's in are game like Mareidian does.

It's just a personal thing. I like to start folks off with a goodly number of chips. My preference would be for even higher starting stacks (I generally do 50 or so in my cash game) but I need the felixiblity to go to larger sized tournaments if required. I can do up to 20 people if needed (though 6-10 is the norm).

The ante for later in play is a new thing. It's just to spur some action at the point folks start to get really cautious. Texas Tears and WSOP use 'em, for the same reason I imagine.

As far as time 1.5-2 hours seems quick to me. When I do a tourney I like 4 hours or so. Make it a contest of skill as much as possible.

Re: different value chips v. stacks. It doesn't take long to get used to how much a stack or 1/2 stack is worth.

The last bit I can't quite figure out. Multiple colors = same value? That seems like a nightmare.

[BDixon]

First, MeridianFC I want to apologize for butchering your name in my last post.

The thing with the different colors being same value is ALL CHIPS have the same value. $5.00 buy-in gets you fifty chips. You can think of it as .10 per chip. As it is all chips are of equal value. When someone goes all in you can just count how many stacks they have. Everyone keeps their chips in stacks of 10, so 6 stacks plus 3 loose chips is 63. It's quick and easy for the guys with 2 digit IQ's.


As for time yes I'd like longer but it's not gonna happen and until I find some other local game this is what I have to play in if I want to play.

Thanks,
Brad

[warewulf]

Originally Posted by BDixon

First, MeridianFC I want to apologize for butchering your name in my last post.

The thing with the different colors being same value is ALL CHIPS have the same value. $5.00 buy-in gets you fifty chips. You can think of it as .10 per chip. As it is all chips are of equal value. When someone goes all in you can just count how many stacks they have. Everyone keeps their chips in stacks of 10, so 6 stacks plus 3 loose chips is 63.

This is just nuts! The whole point of different colors is so this doesn't happen. I'd hate to see this tournament when it's heads up. It would probably take an extra 5+ minutes to match stacks.