New Nevada Jacks Spinners Galore

slicky5150 · #1 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 02:00 PM

Hello all. I recently received a set of Nevada Jacks Ceramics from Poker Source Online. I am no expert when it comes to chips but it seems that they are almost all spinners. On one side they dont spin but on the other they spin like a top.
I have some samples that I ordered about a year ago and they dont spin.
This makes the stacks very unstable and they will spin in the middle of a stack.

Has anyone else noticed this? I read that they changed the size of the mold. Possibly the problem? Or they may have found a great way to get rid of their bad chips? I doubt that i just happened to get all the spinners.

I must say if a little play doesnt help, (i doubt that it will) I am going to be very dissappointed with these chips. I have the cheap faux clays and they play better than these.

Thanks, Chad.

CaptLego · #2 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 02:09 PM

Yeah, lots of us have noticed the same thing. My old NJ samples are the Skulls and Desert Sands, and they're all pretty good. My newest NJ samples are Bounty and American Beauties, and they have lots of spinners. The new chips are cupped.

What model of NJ's are your new chips?

slicky5150 · #3 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 02:17 PM

My new chips are the Nevada Jacks skulls. Poker Source Online is giving them away for signing up for poker rooms and playing X raked hands, depends on the room. Sweet deal but man I must say these chips are just sad. I absolutely loved my samples but these are far from the old ones.

Guess i better get to like them as i have 400 more on the way. Guess i could sell them like everyone else seems to be doing.

Chad

PocketRocket · #4 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 02:17 PM

Since these things are primarily if not entirely plastic and would be subject to the same warping problems that compression molded chips would be to heat, do you suppose that a recent supply of blanks or finished chips may have been stored, shipped, or stored by secondary retailers or consumers, in high heat areas (e.g. passenger compartment of a car)? If the blanks are imported from Asia and the containers were exposed to the higher heat levels of the summer, this might be about the time that those items may be hitting the consumer level.

jojobinks · #5 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 02:21 PM

ceramic=plastic?

PocketRocket · #6 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 02:55 PM

I think you'll find that the primary ingredient for chips, whether they are compression molded or injection molded, is plastic, regardless of what people may call them. The difference here is the type of plastics used to create the composition that is desired. There's also an interesting case from a few years back when Chipco sued one of their vendors for some bad forumlations of the polymers that they use to make gaming chips.

Basically the long and short of it is that you probably won't find any clay in "clay" compression molded chips, and there is probably little or no ceramic (depending upon how you define "ceramic" in an injection molded "ceramic" chip. But I'm pretty confident that you will find genuine plastic in a Bud Jones V7 chip

; that is if you don't count the brass slug.

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Originally Posted by jojobinks

ceramic=plastic?

2_hotty · #7 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 02:56 PM

I guess it's a good thing that my customs were from the old stock. Although I can't add to my set....ever, and have the chips match. So that's nice.

jamby · #8 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by slicky5150

Hello all. I recently received a set of Nevada Jacks Ceramics ... hey are almost all spinners. On one side they dont spin but on the other they spin like a top.

OK, I give up. What do you guys mean when you refer to a chip as a 'spinner'? It's probably the dumbest question ever right? Leave it to the newbie.

Thanks in advance,
jamby

CaptLego · #9 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jamby

OK, I give up. What do you guys mean when you refer to a chip as a 'spinner'? It's probably the dumbest question ever right? Leave it to the newbie.

Thanks in advance,
jamby

It's a common question (maybe we should do a FAQ). If you search the forums you'll find lots of discussion about spinners. But to answer your question:

A spinner is a chip that makes contact with the other chips in the stack at the center of the chip, instead of the perimeter. Consequently, it has less friction torque (because of the decreased radius at which the contact occurs) when you try to rotate one chip on top of another. So if you take a stack of chips and twist the top, the stack that's above the spinner will rotate freely against the lower part of the stack. The stack is also quite wobbly since the spinner chips are not making solid contact at the edges of the chips.

If you check out the review we did here:
http://chiptalk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12042
You can see a movie (sorry about the quality of the movie) that shows how I test for spinners, and how they make the stack wobbly. You'll also find more description of the spinners in the review.

neiiy69 · #10 (**permalink**) 11-10-2005, 06:37 PM

i think about half of my ds nj are spinners. i still like the chips anyway and noone i play poker even knows anything about spinners they still stack ok and dont spill like all the dice chips out there. so to most people its ok.