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Old 11-10-2005, 11:29 AM
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ASM custom inlays

Hi Everyone,

I've been a chipaholic wannabe for a while, lurking and gathering information from all you nice people. It is time to take the plunge into a set of horse heads. My question is regarding the centration of the inlays. One of my ideas involves a circle along the circumference. Bob, the graphics artist at Pokerchips . com advised caution stating that there will probably be some inlays punched off center which is more obvious with a circle.

Anyone here have experience with that? Any percentage of noticeable off center inlays?

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Re: ASM custom inlays

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Hi Everyone,

I've been a chipaholic wannabe for a while, lurking and gathering information from all you nice people. It is time to take the plunge into a set of horse heads. My question is regarding the centration of the inlays. One of my ideas involves a circle along the circumference. Bob, the graphics artist at Pokerchips . com advised caution stating that there will probably be some inlays punched off center which is more obvious with a circle.

Anyone here have experience with that? Any percentage of noticeable off center inlays?

Thanks
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but seriously, the pharaoh's have a noticeable percentage of off-center inlays. i'd say like 1/5 or so. if this is a necessary evil, then yeah, it seems like a bad idea to have an outline at the very outer edge of the inlay.

i don't have ASM's though.

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Old 11-10-2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: ASM custom inlays

The artists at ASM deal with this every day. I'd recommend relying upon their advice. Die-cutting a circle perfectly centered for an inlay is an invitation to trouble. Be aware that they're referring to a process that entails the inlay stock being printed first and then the circular form being cut from the printed stock afterwards. You should be aware that there will be a potential that some or even many of the inlays may be off-center enough that they will be detectable to the naked eye. As an experiment for your self, you might want to create a template for yourself (or use the .PDF file from onlinelabels) of circles on a sheet of paper, and then try and print perfectly aligned images into each of the circles, that should give you an idea of what you might be facing.



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Hi Everyone,

I've been a chipaholic wannabe for a while, lurking and gathering information from all you nice people. It is time to take the plunge into a set of horse heads. My question is regarding the centration of the inlays. One of my ideas involves a circle along the circumference. Bob, the graphics artist at Pokerchips . com advised caution stating that there will probably be some inlays punched off center which is more obvious with a circle.

Anyone here have experience with that? Any percentage of noticeable off center inlays?

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Re: ASM custom inlays

Do you think they would have a problem designing (or me designing and them printing) a chip with an inlay that has the illusion of being shaped? I am talking about an inlay similar to the BC Turf Club inlay.
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As an experiment for your self, you might want to create a template for yourself (or use the .PDF file from onlinelabels) of circles on a sheet of paper, and then try and print perfectly aligned images into each of the circles, that should give you an idea of what you might be facing.
The label's I printed had a circular edge to them. Trying to get them perfect was by far one of the most irritating things I have ever done. The next set will definately not have a circular pattern
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Re: ASM custom inlays

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Do you think they would have a problem designing (or me designing and them printing) a chip with an inlay that has the illusion of being shaped? I am talking about an inlay similar to the BC Turf Club inlay.
You may have to use BC for this kind of label. If I remember right ASM will not print to the edge of the label so you would have some whitespace.
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Re: ASM custom inlays

If you want something along those lines, you might want to start with a background color that will be the color of the circle and then drop a 7/8" circular design in the center of it (for a 1" label). The background should be large enough to allow for about a 10% bleed (i.e. 330x330 pixels if you're printing at 300 DPI). Regardless, some labels will still be off center a little, but it will most likely be more tolerable. Quite honestly, anyone that has expectations that each inlay will turn out perfectly centered is probably setting themselves up for disappointment. If a person's expectations are on that level, they would probably be better served with a more current technology, like that from Chipco or one of the other vendors that print directly to the chip, or go to the added expense of having labels printed by a company that prints labels on a press (usually around 30-40¢ each for weatherproof labels).

In your case, rather than going for that frustrating circular pattern, you might want to get a little extra mileage from the label by using a bleed to make full use of the label surface.

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