Upgrading to 2000 chips

warthog2 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-10-2005, 08:52 PM

I currently have 1000 NEXGENS, which serve me well. However for large tourneys...and ego I'm looking to upgrade to 2000. Does anyone have any great ideas on how to transport that many chips? I have a 1000 chip case, but it's not built for the weight of the chips, and thus is gonna soon fall apart.

Secondly if you were upgrading this setup of chips to 2000 what how would you? What colors do you think would serve well for big cash games and big tourneys?

BLUE 200
RED 350
GREEN 300
BLACK 100
PURPLE 50

I'm looking to add some white and yellow and have all of the NEXGEN 8000's.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Eventually I'd be thinking of labeling all of them...but not for a while.

Warthog

CaptLego · #2 (**permalink**) 10-10-2005, 09:04 PM

2000 Nexgens are going to weigh a ton. I don't think there's any portable chipcase that can stand up to that weight. If you've got the muscle, you should look at a mid-sized pelican case -- with wheels! Otherwise, I'd suggest two of the smaller pelican or TaskForce cases that can hold 1000 chips each.

As for the breakdown, I have a few questions:
a) how's your current breakdown working for you?
b) when you get around to labeling these, will you use denominations, and if so -- will you want to stick to traditional colors?
c) With 2000 chips, you could arrange your breakdown into separate cash and tourney sets. That would be nice if you want to support a cash sidegame for the people that bust out of the tourney. So.... do you want to support simultaneous cash and tourney games, or maximize the number of people you could support in a tourney?
d) If you're playing cash games, what stakes (assuming you'll add denominations) ?
e) do you have a particular number of people you want to support in a tourney?
f) will your cash games be primarily limit, or no-limit?

Sorry for all the questions, but even with 2000 chips you need some details on your games/goals in order to optimize your chip breakdown.

hachkc · #3 (**permalink**) 10-10-2005, 09:20 PM

There is a company that makes a wheeled case that holds 2000 chips. There was a review of it here on CT but I can't find it now. Have all the reviews disappeared? I think the site was www.pokerchipsdepot.com. You could also try getting a wheeled tool chest and putting poker chip boxes/racks in it. You'll defintely need a wheeled case unless you want 2 separate cases.

CaptLego · #4 (**permalink**) 10-10-2005, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hachkc

There is a company that makes a wheeled case that holds 2000 chips. There was a review of it here on CT but I can't find it now. Have all the reviews disappeared? I think the site was www.pokerchipsdepot.com. You could also try getting a wheeled tool chest and putting poker chip boxes/racks in it. You'll defintely need a wheeled case unless you want 2 separate cases.

The reviews are up. (We've been working on a new format for them these past couple of days). Check 'em out!

The review you're thinking of is the one I did here: http://chiptalk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7413

I would definitely advise against putting 2000 Nexgens (or any other chip, for that matter) in that case, if you plan to transport your chips.

JM · #5 (**permalink**) 10-11-2005, 12:09 AM

I believe they discontinued that case in the review. Go with a pelican wheeled case with the pick & pluck foam and some cheapo chip BOXES (25x4) from 5star.

dammitjim · #6 (**permalink**) 10-11-2005, 01:04 AM

This case:

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/showth...ghlight=harbor

Will hold 2400. I've had it fro several months and so far it hasn't fallen apart.

PocketRocket · #7 (**permalink**) 10-11-2005, 11:20 AM

If you're going to use the Chinese chip cases, I'd suggest 4 of the 500 chip cases (nothing larger). More feasible (and kind of impressive looking) for that volume of chips may be a chip trays enclosed in one of the bird cage carriers. In either case for that volume and weight, a wheeled mobile device of some sort should be employed for movement. You might want to explore building something that would be custom for your needs, or you could use commercially available products like luggage cards or a small sized furniture dolly. In a casino, they would never have anyone moving that volume of chips by hand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by warthog2

Does anyone have any great ideas on how to transport that many chips?Warthog

jmda · #8 (**permalink**) 10-11-2005, 11:47 AM

I made the mistake with my first set of getting too many colors. I had the diamonds 11.5 gram in every available color (over 5000 chips in 14 or 15 colors). Some colors I just had a few, but the main colors for tournaments the most I had was 600, so my grand idea to have really big tournaments was a bust - the most I could host was around 60 (the most I have had so far is 39, but that is beside the point).

I have 1300 nexgens now and can comfortably host 40 people for a tournament. I do however, have a separate chipco cash game set. I entertained the thought of getting more nexgens for a bigger tournament, but two of my poker friends have the same nexgens, and are willing to bring theirs - just in case. Last tournament I ran at my house, there were quite a few no shows, because we were going over 40.

As for the break down - it is personal preference, but I like to use standard colors and for tournaments I usually only use $25 (green) chips and above. I give out less than most people, but find that works best for me. 8 $25 chips, 8 black $100 chips and depending on whether it is a T2000, T5000, or T10000 - depends on the rest of the colors - usually run a T2000 and give out 2 purple $500 chips.

I don't really transport my chips, however, I keep them in acrylic racks in a box currently. And it is one heavy box, but manageable. 4 500 cases would probably be best. You cant carry all of them at once, but save your back and make two trips or get a friend to help.

Q10 soooted · #9 (**permalink**) 10-11-2005, 02:13 PM

Your totals look to be a good spread. 2,000 chips will probably be sufficient for ~50ppl, right? We used ~1,500 chips for 30ppl and it wasn't maximized as well as it could have been.

As far as transport, why not just go with something simple that you may already have, like a carry on suitcase. 20 chipracks with lids would probably fit in side in 5 rows of 4 each. You'd of course want a suitcase (or even a briefcase) with wheels for this.

I transport around a mac G5 + monitor in my big suitcase and it's actually rather convenient. Heavy as anything, but convenient.

warthog2 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-11-2005, 04:24 PM

So while I've not been posting, I've been reading chiptalk for a few months. My wife didn't get my excitement when I looked at the computer and said, "man my first post and a few replys from CaptLego...he's a chip-uber-nerd!" Thanks or the reply Capt and Co.

As for the breakdown, I have a few questions:
I have some answers:

a) how's your current breakdown working for you?
It's working OK, we haven't tourneys with it because a few friends can combine dice to have a set of 2000'ish. But the ego wants to be that man, and the eyes don't want the dice. As for the colors, Blues are going unused in the cash games...would need a good place to fit them in. If I needed a 1 they could go there because I have no whites.

b) when you get around to labeling these, will you use denominations, and if so -- will you want to stick to traditional colors?
My thought is labeling them with denoms...currently my crew is playing a nickel, dime, quarter, but I'd label in dollar signs so if the stakes inrease the chips make sense.

c) With 2000 chips, you could arrange your breakdown into separate cash and tourney sets. That would be nice if you want to support a cash sidegame for the people that bust out of the tourney. So.... do you want to support simultaneous cash and tourney games, or maximize the number of people you could support in a tourney?
I'd always like the idea of having the set work all together or being broken up. There is always the security issue of running a tourney and having the same chips in play on a side game,but I've never had those probems...yet?

d) If you're playing cash games, what stakes (assuming you'll add denominations) ?
As above .05, .10, .25, 100 and so on. I'd label in dollars exspecting people to be able to convert the math.

e) do you have a particular number of people you want to support in a tourney?
We play anywhere from 8 people to 3 or 4 full tables. I want to never look at buying a tourney set, and having one big enough for more than I'd ever need.

f) will your cash games be primarily limit, or no-limit?
No-Limit in the past, with anywhere from 5 to two full tables of people. But limit might happen eventually, it's a fluid group.

That was the most deep I've ever planned with my chips and game set up.

Warthog