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Paging Mr. Jones, Mr. Bud Jones

In my quest to check out all different kinds of chips I finally got my hands on some Bud Jones Dodge City and man was I excited until I actually tried to play with them. So I read all about how they were designed to cut down on shuffling noise and such, well they definitely got that right. These things are a big pain in the ass to shuffle for sure, the magnets just make your stack practically explode and fall all over the place when attempted. Now that being said they look great, I love the design. But I just can't get on board as to call these one of the top chips because they seem to take all the fun out of poker chips. Not to mention the whole plastic thing. I equate them to plastic chips on steroids. I guess for casinos they make a lot of sense because they are durable and don't collect as much dirt as clay but for the home user I'm just gonna have to pass. Any thoughts?
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Re: Paging Mr. Jones, Mr. Bud Jones

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the magnets just make your stack practically explode and fall all over the place when attempted.
There are no magnets in these chips. It has been discussed before somewhere. It is a non magnetic insert. You should not be able to use another magnet to pick up these chips.
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Old 09-23-2005, 08:47 AM
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Re: Paging Mr. Jones, Mr. Bud Jones

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In my quest to check out all different kinds of chips I finally got my hands on some Bud Jones Dodge City and man was I excited until I actually tried to play with them. So I read all about how they were designed to cut down on shuffling noise and such, well they definitely got that right. These things are a big pain in the ass to shuffle for sure, the magnets just make your stack practically explode and fall all over the place when attempted. Now that being said they look great, I love the design. But I just can't get on board as to call these one of the top chips because they seem to take all the fun out of poker chips. Not to mention the whole plastic thing. I equate them to plastic chips on steroids. I guess for casinos they make a lot of sense because they are durable and don't collect as much dirt as clay but for the home user I'm just gonna have to pass. Any thoughts?
I had the same comments about them being hard to shuffle at first. After practicing a bit, it can be done but it is not as easy as with other chips.

As far as a magnet. There is no magnet in these. There is a brass insert. One of mine was cracked so I broke it the rest of the way and this is what I found inside.



I would not agree that they are anything like plastic 11.5 gram dice chips. They stack way better. Several hundred can be easily stacked and stacks never fall apart when you are pushing them in. There are no injection mold spots, they look fantastic, everyone that I have played with loves them and the best part of all is that they are from a real casino.

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Yep, no magnets. My mistake. They are without a doubt better than 11.5 don't get me wrong there. And they are beautiful. But they are strange.
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Ok so maybe someone can explain to my why these chips are not held in the same regard as every other slugged chip?? Aside from them using a different formulation of plastic to make them more rubbery/sticky, how are they more accepted as 'real' chips than other slugged chips?
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Ok so maybe someone can explain to my why these chips are not held in the same regard as every other slugged chip?? Aside from them using a different formulation of plastic to make them more rubbery/sticky, how are they more accepted as 'real' chips than other slugged chips?
The smart-ass answer is that these are regarded as "real" chips because they are real chips -- made for casinos only and not available to the public.

Since thay have a metal weight in the middle, this means they are not compression-molded "clay" chips. To some people, that makes them inferior, just on principle.

Actually, the dreaded 11.5g dice chips gave metal slugs a bad name by making them so cheap and tinny.

Why do people like them, including me?
  • Weight - The weight makes them feel substantial.
  • Looks - The colors and molded edge markings make them fancier than most clay chips, and the molds can be customized to a particular casino and denomination. The decal inlay can be 4-color printed with holograms, etc.
  • Feel - This is most important to me. The "secret formula" composition of the plastic material makes it slightly sticky but very durable. The vacuum effect (which makes them seem magnetic) comes from the wide plastic rim gripping the chip below it, enhanced by the inset inlay area. But this allows them to stack real high.
  • Sound - They make a strong clunk sound, not a clinky metal slug sound. They sound rich and smooth, like the beer commercial.
But yes, they are harder to shuffle. This applies to the classic "decal A" size chips. The WSOP chips are "decal B" size with a large inlay and slightly smaller rim area, so there is not as much vacuum. Watch the TV show and you'll see no problems with shuffling.



Your mileage may vary, of course.... Paulson vs. Chipco vs. Bud Jones discussions are like BMW vs. Mercedes vs. Lexus discussions, or F-150 vs. Chevy 1500 vs. Dodge Ram discussions.
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I'm not a Bud Jones fan but there really isn't any comparison between them and the typical 11.5g slugged plastics that are out there. The plastic formulation, construction, sound, etc. is vastly superior for Bud Jones.
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