Appologies for poor photography on InPlay Clays

Sidepot · #1 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 04:10 PM

I read thru all of the comments on the two InPlay Clay threads, and got quite a bit of feedback. Thanks to all that posted.

First off, my apologies for coming across as paranoid about competing vendors logging in anonymously and slamming our chips. From what I've read on this board, it seems I was prejudicing the bulk of posts when my fears are more like a small exception to the normal posts. There is a lot of honest (albeit no mincing of words) and meaningful posts in there. I've seen other boards, in other industries, and it's pretty bad on some boards. Obviously, it's wrong for me to jump to conclusions on this board and it's members, when I'm so new to it.

Secondly, I apologize about the photos on our site. We do these in house currently, but after reading thru your comments, we will definitely explore ways to improve our photo quality and contrast. Our site can be a bit confusing sometimes, so I wanted to add a link to what I believe are some clearer images of these chips http://www.buypokerchips.com/inplay-...oker-chips.htm. You can click on each individual chip to get a blown-up view. Let me know if these are better images (also if you were unable to find them before).

I just wanted to let you know that we're listening. While some of you may like or dislike elements of our chips, the manufacturers we utilize, or the markets we target, knowing your strongly held personal preferences helps to inform us on the larger poker playing population. We may not always give you exactly what you're looking for at the price you're looking for, but we believe we are making good progress in the high-end poker chip market. We're very encouraged by the willingness of the manufacturers we partner with on our high-end chip lines to constantly improve their products, as well as their flexibility and willingness to give the consumer market whatever it wants. Not all manufacturers are willing to do this, nor even seem to care.

Above all, we understand very well that you'll buy whatever you want, not whatever we want to sell. We're never content to rest on our laurels.

It's a good time to be a poker chip nut. We'll keep you posted.

-Stephan

yeltzen · #2 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 04:16 PM

Well I think that's pretty much a load of crap.

You AREN'T listening... if you were, you wouldn't have made the prices HIGHER after the thread from the TH-P.com forum.
This really should be an apology for the lies in the description of the product, and the price gouging. k thx

ThorCavalier · #3 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BuyPokerChips

We're very encouraged by the willingness of the manufacturers we partner with on our high-end chip lines to constantly improve their products, as well as their flexibility and willingness to give the consumer market whatever it wants. Not all manufacturers are willing to do this, nor even seem to care.

-Stephan

BC has been showing a commitment to the home market consumers that is for sure.

ThorCavalier · #4 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 04:21 PM

I do like the mold, maybe down the road if you can offer another chip on that mold with nicer inlays and at a competitive price I'll think about buying some.

Timinater · #5 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 05:00 PM

I'm sorry the pictures still aren't doing it for me. Perhaps your lighting was causing too much glareor washing out the labels? that might be the only reason for the dark pictures. You could get a lamp and cover it with a white sheet of paper..hankerchief or whatever and that will turn the "hard" light into "soft" light that wont have such intensity or harsh shadows. If theres one thing that turn me off a product its poor pictures.

VARoadstter · #6 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 05:02 PM

Wow, I completely missed this series of threads until now.

As far as I know, this board is not populated by competing vendors who make a habit of trashing each other's work. Mr. BPC was way off base on that one. I guess I'm willing to give a new guy a break.

Now, as to the chips themselves - I would be considered your "key demographic" - (moderately) affluent, chip geek, love poker, etc. etc. etc. :

I do not have samples of your chips but I looked at the pics and they look like hell. You talk about the feel but look is as big a consideration as feel. I just wasn't wowed by the inlay. I thought the idea of borrowing the currency theme was kinda cool, the inlay just looks poorly done. The colors are ugly. The contrast looks bad.

The chip colors are worse than the inlays. They are way too yellow for me. A return to basics here would be a big improvement (white/blue, red, green, black, purple, etc.). If you absolutely must insist on having different colors, please stay away from yellow - it always looks hideous. Doesn't matter what shade you use.

The edgespots look ok, I guess. Without samples I can't really say for sure if all the color combos work but I don't see any big no-no's here.

The price? Well, if you want $2 a chip from me (again, I am your key demographic - if I won't buy it, noone will) then it's got to be far superior to everything out there. You're going to need a beautiful inlay (probably a different one on each chip), variety to the edgespots (single, double, triple colors, even no edgespots is good for low denom chips), and great color, texture, and weight.

If I can get all those things on a chip then I'm interested. As it stands right now I have several options available that are superior in look and price (can't say about feel without samples). I'm not saying I'd never pay that much for chips, only that I need a compelling reason to do so.

Good luck. I hope to see great things.

KYBill · #7 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VARoadstter

Wow, I completely missed this series of threads until now.

As far as I know, this board is not populated by competing vendors who make a habit of trashing each other's work. Mr. BPC was way off base on that one. I guess I'm willing to give a new guy a break.

Now, as to the chips themselves - I would be considered your "key demographic" - (moderately) affluent, chip geek, love poker, etc. etc. etc. :

I do not have samples of your chips but I looked at the pics and they look like hell. You talk about the feel but look is as big a consideration as feel. I just wasn't wowed by the inlay. I thought the idea of borrowing the currency theme was kinda cool, the inlay just looks poorly done. The colors are ugly. The contrast looks bad.

The chip colors are worse than the inlays. They are way too yellow for me. A return to basics here would be a big improvement (white/blue, red, green, black, purple, etc.). If you absolutely must insist on having different colors, please stay away from yellow - it always looks hideous. Doesn't matter what shade you use.

The edgespots look ok, I guess. Without samples I can't really say for sure if all the color combos work but I don't see any big no-no's here.

The price? Well, if you want $2 a chip from me (again, I am your key demographic - if I won't buy it, noone will) then it's got to be far superior to everything out there. You're going to need a beautiful inlay (probably a different one on each chip), variety to the edgespots (single, double, triple colors, even no edgespots is good for low denom chips), and great color, texture, and weight.

If I can get all those things on a chip then I'm interested. As it stands right now I have several options available that are superior in look and price (can't say about feel without samples). I'm not saying I'd never pay that much for chips, only that I need a compelling reason to do so.

Good luck. I hope to see great things.

very good post, I agree with most everything in it.

Q10 soooted · #8 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 05:10 PM

Geez Yeltzen, give it a rest. BPC is responding to the comments/feedbacks in the threads from this site and I think the apology in this thread is a good one.

It's pretty clear by now that you don't like their chips and have a history on TH-P.com's forum. Fine, but do you really have to post after every BPC post just to complain?

I still dig that

austin5string · #9 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 05:12 PM

Yeah, but just about EVERY critical post has mentioned the ridiculous price point and BPC has ignored it - not even attempted to justify it or explain it.

kharp · #10 (**permalink**) 09-20-2005, 05:53 PM

WHINE, WHINE, WHINE! Everybodys whining about the price of these chips, (I'm not, even though I think they're higher than a camels ass) when really you should just ignore the guy. Let him keep his chips that he has on hand and if you really like them wait until he unloads them for 50% off retail at his "these didn't sell as well as we had hoped" sale (which is still too much...and I even like the colors and could probably live with the inlay).