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Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

I wrote some questions in the Pipe-shield thread, but that grew beyond the scope of that thread so i thought i'd put it in a new thread and see if this can be cleared up...

The main issue is that i have 10 ASM samples that i've grown fond of but recently they've started getting gooey and sticky so i thought i'd clean them (a little experiment so i'd be prepared for when i get my customs)

First i filled a small bowl with teppid water and added perhaps 1/2 thimble of Ajax All-cleaner. Then i put the chips in, let them soak for a minute or 2 and brushed them thouroughly but gently with a soft toothbrush. They became clean (sligtly dry and chalky feeling to them, just as they were when i got them initially)

What i noticed though was that one of the chips with an inlay had gotten water under the edges of the inlay!!?! I actually could use my fingernail to catch the edge of the inlay and i could have ripped it off if i'd wanted. Another chip with an inlay showed no such "damage"... When inspecting them i got the feeling that the chip that was "undamaged" was coated with something whereas the chip where the inlay got loosened had a noticeable edge between the inlay and the chip (although they were level). And also the inlay of that chip felt slightly different in texture.

These are the chips i'm talking about:

The chip with the inlay that came loose.


The chip that wasn't damaged (coated?)


The loose inlay


I didn't do more than stick a tiny portion of the edge of the knife under the inlay to be able to show the gap. I then removed the knife and the inlay settled back into the chip...

Later today when i was shuffling the chips i noticed that the stack felt "wobbly". It was the damaged chip and when i put my fingernail against the inlay edge, it popped loose. Just like that.


(As you notice the surface beneath the inlay is white and "papery"... Could it be that the inlay was simply split in half, that the paper-part of the inlay just parted?)

I'm starting to get scared here. I had initially thought that all ASMs' were coated with something to protect the inlays after they were molded. I remember reading a review (i think it was on homepokertourney) where it was stated that it was impossible to get to the inlay without major force with a sharp knife...

All i did here was letting the chip soak in teppid water for a couple of minutes (max)... I've read all the threads about letting your chips soak in Pipe Shield for 20hours+ etc..

So... have anyone else seen this with the ASM's? Is it possible that i got some kind of 2:nd rate chip (put aside because of some production problem thus only qualifiyng for samplesets) or is this a general issue with ASM clays?

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Re: Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

I've seen a few other posts around here about problems with ASM inlays coming off, you should be able to search and find it.
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Re: Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

You got a defective chip. The inlay didn't adhere to the chip properly causing a 'bubble inlay'. ASM has pretty much eliminated these after recently finding the cause.
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Re: Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

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You got a defective chip. The inlay didn't adhere to the chip properly causing a 'bubble inlay'. ASM has pretty much eliminated these after recently finding the cause.
Yeah, I just received 400 chips and not one had a bubble inlay (including the extras).
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Re: Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

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You got a defective chip. The inlay didn't adhere to the chip properly causing a 'bubble inlay'. ASM has pretty much eliminated these after recently finding the cause.
Ok, but the inlay wasn't bubbled or anything prior to when i put it into water. Until that point, it was slick and level with the chip. When the chip had been submerged in water for a couple of minutes, the edges of the inlay started to "lift", not the middle...

So is this as you say, the famous "bubble"-problem with the inlays, or are they sensitive to water?

Have someone cleaned their ASM's and let them lie in water for a while without this having occured? I was warned by Harlequin011 that ASM's won't hold up to water... Is there any truth in that?
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Re: Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

From the pokers.com website. Please read the FAQ for your answer.
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Re: Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

Ok, i had totally missed that...

But this applies to ASM only, am i right? BCC and Paulson can take being "drowned"?

I prefer ASM's to BCC (at least to the ones i have, the old Bond and Fan of cards on the flame-mold) and i haven't got my paulson samples yet, but if ASM's are tricky to clean and sensitive to water... that might be a showstopper for me...
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Re: Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

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But this applies to ASM only, am i right? BCC and Paulson can take being "drowned"?

I prefer ASM's to BCC (at least to the ones i have, the old Bond and Fan of cards on the flame-mold) and i haven't got my paulson samples yet, but if ASM's are tricky to clean and sensitive to water... that might be a showstopper for me...
Paulson's (I can't speak for BCC) can definitely stand being underwater. That being said, unless you are going to run a casino (or you are buying old casino chips), I wouldn't worry too much about the cleaning issue. You may never have to clean your chips en masse.
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Re: Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

Are clay chips washable?

No they are not. You cannot put clay chips in the dish washer, clothes washer or bucket of water to soak. This will destroy your chips! If you need to clean any clay chips, it should be done one chip at a time. Use a soft fine brush (toothbrush works well) and a small amount of mild detergent in water. Use the brush to apply a small amount of cleaner to the chip, then dry at once with a soft cloth.

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Re: Is it safe to clean ASM's with water?

Yes, thanks i read that after jimb pointed it out to me. But appearantly this only applies to ASM's as i've read numerous threads about other users soaking their chips in Pipe Shield for +20hours...
I love the ASM's, don't get me wrong, i just want to be able to clean them in a simple and safe way... Cleaning 1500-2000 chips one at a time like suggested sounds a bit tiresome as opposed to letting them soak in PD for a while and just rinsing them off...
Anyway, this has cleared things up for me... I was initially under the impression they were coated, but now i know they are not.
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