question about stacking damaged chips in racks

m_farrar84 · #1 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 10:03 AM

well i have had a question from Nelzie about stacking St Jo's paulsons in racks 3+ high and i couldnt realy answer it myself so i thought someone else could help out

Q) would stacking damaged paulsons (St Jo's) in racks 3+ high have any affect on the damaged chips

any thoughts???

thanks Michael

Deuce · #2 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 10:26 AM

I wouldnt think so, I have my chips stored 5 high and have never had a problem

Nelzie · #3 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 10:33 AM

Just a friendly amendment to the question...

My question was whether stacking undamaged (as in very good condition to mint, not warped, not cracked, etc) Paulson clay chips can damage the chips if they are stacked 3, 4, 5+ racks high, assuming the racks used are Paulson's or similar where the weight of the chips on top are resting on the chips in the racks below....

There's a seperate issues with St. Jo's and other clay chips that have been damaged/cracked in a hotstamping process and whether those damaged chips will suffer further damage due to the weight...

m_farrar84 · #4 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelzie

Just a friendly amendment to the question...

My question was whether stacking undamaged (as in very good condition to mint, not warped, not cracked, etc) Paulson clay chips can damage the chips if they are stacked 3, 4, 5+ racks high, assuming the racks used are Paulson's or similar where the weight of the chips on top are resting on the chips in the racks below....

There's a seperate issues with St. Jo's and other clay chips that have been damaged/cracked in a hotstamping process and whether those damaged chips will suffer further damage due to the weight...

opps sorry

Poker4eveR · #5 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 04:52 PM

Chips can get damaged being stacked in racks on top of one another (more weight the worse it can be). It will depend on the chip and the rack combo that will make this more or less likely to happen. If the chip is soft then be careful of the inside rails of the racks hitting the chips. Or you can dremel it out and make sure it won't be a problem. Of course then your rack will slide more from left to right. With ceramics it won't be an issue, they're too hard.

I would say the worst combo is having 1003's and using the Chinese racks (ask me how I know). Chips are soft and racks are hard. Chipco and BJ racks are much softer and the rails aren't as pointy.

Good luck

punk1o1 · #6 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 05:40 PM

Then what about using Birdcages? Especially the 1000 chips birdcages stacking them 5 racks hight?

abby99 · #7 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poker4eveR

Chips can get damaged being stacked in racks on top of one another (more weight the worse it can be). It will depend on the chip and the rack combo that will make this more or less likely to happen. If the chip is soft then be careful of the inside rails of the racks hitting the chips. Or you can dremel it out and make sure it won't be a problem. Of course then your rack will slide more from left to right. With ceramics it won't be an issue, they're too hard.

I would say the worst combo is having 1003's and using the Chinese racks (ask me how I know). Chips are soft and racks are hard. Chipco and BJ racks are much softer and the rails aren't as pointy.

Good luck

OK, I'll bite. What happened, and do you have pics? I'm curious because I just bought 1200 Pharaoh's and am currently keeping them in two acrylic carriers with what are probably Chinese racks.

Poker4eveR · #8 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 07:10 PM

The Pharaoh's are a lot harder than 1003's and you shouldn't have any trouble. You might check to see when the racks are in the carrier how much they can slide from one end to the other. Will the chips hit the rail inside the racks?

dad604 · #9 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 09:02 PM

We need an engineer to explain why stacking chips 3, 4, 5, 10, etc high will not damage the chips. Where is Capt Lego?

Just think of it this way, each chip will only bear the weight of a single chip on top. So if stack 10 high each chip will bear the weight of 10 chips. I don't see any problem with stacking 3 high, even the damaged St Jo's. If your racks are such that only the end rows of chips support the rack above then that will not be true but for undamage chips, it still will not trouble me to stack my chips 10 high.

Poker4eveR · #10 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 07:06 AM

I agree, each chip will take the weight of 10 chips, IF.

I'll take a shot at this. First off, do the chips in the bottom rack all have equal diameters? Most Paulson's, BJ, In Plays, T Mold, Ceramics, etc. are very consistent. ASM's and TR Kings for example are not. Anyhow, IF they are all the same diameter then the weight of the rack(s) above should spread out the weight evenly to each chip in the bottom rack. The racks don't have to be perfect since they will flex and conform to the chips below. BUT in the case of ASM's, chips that are taller will get more weight.

Regardless what chip it is, I wouldn't stack racks of chips on top of ones that are fractured. If so, it might be critical to use the correct rack for the chips so there isn't any slop.